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Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for camp
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:49 pm
by esox07
Minnesota Vikings defensive tackle Tom Johnson has been acquitted of all counts stemming from his October arrest at a Minneapolis restaurant.
Johnson was charged with three misdemeanor counts, including disorderly conduct, after authorities say he refused orders to leave Seven, a downtown steakhouse and sushi lounge. Authorities used a chemical spray and a stun gun on Johnson.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/vikings-dt ... --nfl.html
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 11:55 pm
by losperros
Let's hope Johnson can put this behind him and work his tail end off at camp.
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:36 am
by homerjay
everything about that stunk! Reminded me of AP getting arrested for resisting arrest.....
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:38 am
by Raptorman
homerjay wrote:everything about that stunk! Reminded me of AP getting arrested for resisting arrest.....
Yup. That didn't go well for the cops I am sure. Since they didn't arrest him for anything else. Resisting arrest can not be a stand alone charge, there has to be another arrest in there for something.
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 9:40 pm
by esox07
Raptorman, is that true that you can not only be charged with resisting arrest as a single charge by itself? Did not know that.
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 10:25 pm
by jackal
Yup. That didn't go well for the cops I am sure. Since they didn't arrest him for anything else. Resisting arrest can not be a stand alone charge, there has to be another arrest in there for something.
Varies from State to State .. In California I think resisting arrest can stand alone....
An officer has to have reason to stop you, though....without probable cause An officer could actually be terminated, if he detains you (depending on circumstances)
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:13 am
by DK Sweets
jackal wrote:
Varies from State to State .. In California I think resisting arrest can stand alone....
An officer has to have reason to stop you, though....without probable cause An officer could actually be terminated, if he detains you (depending on circumstances)
I'm not sure how that could stand. If the cop didn't have a reason to arrest you, shouldn't you have the right to...like...not want to be arrested?
Am I looking at this too simplistically? Haha
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 11:00 am
by Jordysghost
DK Sweets wrote:I'm not sure how that could stand. If the cop didn't have a reason to arrest you, shouldn't you have the right to...like...not want to be arrested?
Am I looking at this too simplistically? Haha
Lmfao, right? If that can be a stand alone charge that is absolute lunacy.
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:54 pm
by Raptorman
jackal wrote:
Varies from State to State .. In California I think resisting arrest can stand alone....
An officer has to have reason to stop you, though....without probable cause An officer could actually be terminated, if he detains you (depending on circumstances)
I was wrong, it can be a stand alone charge although there are limits on it being a stand alone charge. Peterson didn't meet any of those when arrested.
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 10:23 am
by jackal
I was wrong, it can be a stand alone charge although there are limits on it being a stand alone charge. Peterson didn't meet any of those when arrested.
There are a few really informative videos on you tube in which defense lawyers and ex law enforcement give advice on what to say and how to respond
if questioned and protect your rights. arrest versus being detained ....
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:49 pm
by S197
DK Sweets wrote:I'm not sure how that could stand. If the cop didn't have a reason to arrest you, shouldn't you have the right to...like...not want to be arrested?
Am I looking at this too simplistically? Haha
They can detain you (i.e. handcuff) without putting you under arrest. I assume if they tried to cuff you and you resisted, that would technically be resisting detainment but they probably just call it resisting arrest. I'm sure you need probable cause to detain someone but what that constitutes is probably minimal especially next to an arrest. I think even a "for my and your safety" is enough justification.
Re: Tom Johnson DT aquitted of all charges and ready for cam
Posted: Thu Jun 18, 2015 1:49 am
by jackal
Yeah I read the article on Johnson and the trial; and it sounds like the jury didn't believe the police, at all.
One of the officers slapped a cell phone out of Johnson's hand, prior to the arrest. They don't have the authority to
do that. Johnson's lawyer stated that; Johnson plans on filing a lawsuit, after the season is finished. If that is the case, I
hope the arresting officers are fired, and lose their pensions.
http://www.dailynorseman.com/2014/10/8/ ... ons-arrest
13 second video of the cop slapping the phone at the very end.