WHY is Asiata still starting

[Orion]

Is it not clear as day by now Mckinnon is more talented and explosive? Even in garbage time, *Asiata is getting more touches and experience. I don't get it...

[Craws84]

Me either

[Demi]

We're not a savvy veteran NFL coach.
We also won't be a fired savvy veteran NFL coach.

[fiestavike]

I looked up "Troll" is the dictionary and I found this picture!

[VikingLord]

I looked up "Troll" is the dictionary and I found this picture!

Demi has over 22,000 posts here. Do you think if he were a troll he'd have been able to rack up that number of posts over the YEARS he's been posting on VMB?

Some might say a troll is the one who turns things personal rather than focus on the substance of what is being said. You don't agree with Demi? Fine, share your perspective. You don't like Demi and choose to call him out personally? On this board, that should be a problem - for you.

Hope the mods are watching this thread too.

[fiestavike]

Demi has over 22,000 posts here. Do you think if he were a troll he'd have been able to rack up that number of posts over the YEARS he's been posting on VMB?

Some might say a troll is the one who turns things personal rather than focus on the substance of what is being said. You don't agree with Demi? Fine, share your perspective. You don't like Demi and choose to call him out personally? On this board, that should be a problem - for you.

Hope the mods are watching this thread too.

I have no problem with Demi, but he is our friendly resident troll.

[PacificNorseWest]

OMG. You guys...smh

[saint33]

Demi has over 22,000 posts here. Do you think if he were a troll he'd have been able to rack up that number of posts over the YEARS he's been posting on VMB?

Some might say a troll is the one who turns things personal rather than focus on the substance of what is being said. You don't agree with Demi? Fine, share your perspective. You don't like Demi and choose to call him out personally? On this board, that should be a problem - for you.

Hope the mods are watching this thread too.

this is not specific to fiesta or demi, I'm just voicing my opinion about what you said here.

But I don't think trolls are limited to people who personally attack others. In fact, in my experience with internet trolls, I'd say that's the less common type of "troll". Most of the time a troll is someone who only posts comments that they know are unpopular or irritating to others with the intentional purpose of getting a rise out of others.



and getting back to the topic at hand, I personally don't think either back is capable (at least at this point) of being a reliable #1 or "workhorse" type of a back. McKinnon's skillset and physical build are tailored more to being the change of pace type of back, and considering he's a rookie with very little experience at his position, I'm not sure it's a great idea to give him the bulk of the load. It's a long season for everyone, I think when you consider all the factors (rookie, new to the position, size, etc.) McKinnon would likely wear down too quickly as the starting back. I think our best bet is to stick to a rotation with him and Asiata, and I think seeing more of Banyard as well would be beneficial to the overall run game.

[VikingLord]

this is not specific to fiesta or demi, I'm just voicing my opinion about what you said here.

But I don't think trolls are limited to people who personally attack others. In fact, in my experience with internet trolls, I'd say that's the less common type of "troll". Most of the time a troll is someone who only posts comments that they know are unpopular or irritating to others with the intentional purpose of getting a rise out of others.

There is a big difference between someone expressing frustration directed at the team and someone expressing frustration directed at a board member in a very personal way. It's a fine line and I agree some can cross it without meaning to, but when I see one poster calling Demi "stupid", another anointing him as the board "troll", and another just going after him, I think that is where the line is crossed.

To put it in the context of what you wrote, in the one case the behavior is non-specific and directed at nobody personally, although it might (and I emphasize the word "might") cause someone to get upset, while in the other case the behavior is directed at someone and nobody could construe it in any other way than to cause that specific person to get upset. A clear difference IMHO, and one this board can ill afford to cross if things are going to remain civil for everyone.

[Mothman]

this is not specific to fiesta or demi, I'm just voicing my opinion about what you said here.

But I don't think trolls are limited to people who personally attack others. In fact, in my experience with internet trolls, I'd say that's the less common type of "troll". Most of the time a troll is someone who only posts comments that they know are unpopular or irritating to others with the intentional purpose of getting a rise out of others.

Exactly. The primary characteristic of internet trolls is that they attempt to provoke, to sow discord. While a troll may engage in personal attacks as well, they're often crafty enough to avoid such behavior. They're more likely to try drawing it out of others.

[mansquatch]

I think the RB situation should be put in the context of we have a guy who is Backup/Special Teamer (Asiata) and a potential successor who is currently a "project" (McKinnon). The reality is the team expected AP to play most of the season with his usual dominance. Unfortunately, the child abuse issues took hold and here we are today with the best RB since Barry Sanders a healthy scratch due to PR.

In my opinion the disaster at RB is solely the responsibility of #28. When you have that talent on your roster you are not planning to have a back up play 15 games in a season barring a major injury. It is what it is. Relax and have a beer, it is all you can do.

[BGM]

"Why so serious?"



Just a little levity for your Friday hangover.

[mansquatch]

That is good stuff.

I'm not taking this season very seriously. After what happened with AP I knew this season was most likely going to be poor, so I've taken the attitude of if they are bad, then it was expected, and if not, it is a pleasant surprise.

The play of Bridgewate alone is enough to keep a positive spin on things.

They've got what, 6 starters injured right now? Plus their best player is basically a healthy scratch. I know "next man up" and all of that, but they have many, many additional hurdles to success right now. I just plan to enjoy hte positives and not let the negatvies get me down too much. This year is just weird.

[Purple Domination]

That is good stuff.

I'm not taking this season very seriously. After what happened with AP I knew this season was most likely going to be poor, so I've taken the attitude of if they are bad, then it was expected, and if not, it is a pleasant surprise.

The play of Bridgewate alone is enough to keep a positive spin on things.

They've got what, 6 starters injured right now? Plus their best player is basically a healthy scratch. I know "next man up" and all of that, but they have many, many additional hurdles to success right now. I just plan to enjoy hte positives and not let the negatvies get me down too much. This year is just weird.

Exactly. I am looking at this season with no expectations. Last Sunday was like when you walk into a movie you think is going to suck and end up pleasantly surprised.

I am still excited to see what these young players can do. If there is any silver lining, I think a season like this has come at the best possible time. We are displaced with no "home" stadium. We have a new coach and handful of young players. Now is the time to see what these guys are made of and sort out the weak and groom the strong. I do trust in Zimmer, he definitely has the potential and it seems like he has the smarts, but he's got to cut his teeth at head coach like anyone else new to a job. This is the perfect season to do that. I think by the time we step foot in our new stadium (maybe even next season), we will be a team capable of making a deep playoff run.

[DK Sweets]

There is a big difference between someone expressing frustration directed at the team and someone expressing frustration directed at a board member in a very personal way. It's a fine line and I agree some can cross it without meaning to, but when I see one poster calling Demi "stupid", another anointing him as the board "troll", and another just going after him, I think that is where the line is crossed.

To put it in the context of what you wrote, in the one case the behavior is non-specific and directed at nobody personally, although it might (and I emphasize the word "might") cause someone to get upset, while in the other case the behavior is directed at someone and nobody could construe it in any other way than to cause that specific person to get upset. A clear difference IMHO, and one this board can ill afford to cross if things are going to remain civil for everyone.

The board would be a lot more civil if Demi didn't intend to cause emotional responses in the first place, so your argument is not very valid. On a Vikings fan board, he nearly never has anything positive to say. He constantly uses the headbang and laughing smilies after his posts, giving the impression that others' opinions are stupid or laughable. To put it another way:

Troll (noun) definition: a person who makes a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting

Troll (verb) definition: to make a deliberately offensive or provocative online posting with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them

It says nothing about making it personal toward one poster. Are you really going to deny that Demi is a troll?