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Did anyonce catch the Super Bowl edition of SoundFX on NFL Network. I thought it truly showcase what a class act Randy Moss is, not solely as a performer but also as a phenomenol leader. He was constantly in the ear of Crabtree, explaining penalties and tendencies, obviously appreciating that you never stop learning as a player and aiding a younger player who would have obviously suffered with nerves on the grandest stage of them all.

Speaks volumes for him as a person and emphasises even more so precisely why he'll go down as one of the best receivers in NFL history.

He's often described as a good teammate and it sounds like you saw an example of that. He's also undoubtedly one of the greatest, most talented receivers to ever play in the NFL but I'd never describe Moss as a class act. There are just too many moments and incidents in his career to suggest otherwise.

Edit: Sorry, there was going to be a little more to that but I received a phone call so I just posted it "as is". I was going to add that Moss has shown he can be a charitable, good-hearted guy so in that sense, I get the impression he really is a class act, someone who likes to help others. Unfortunately, his behavior, both on and off the field, has been far less than classy at times and I genuinely mean it when I say that's unfortunate. Moss tarnished his legacy and that's truly a shame.

Yeah what a class act he is/was I started disrespecting him when he walked off the field at the Skin's game while the game was still going on. Some team mate Strange that the Patriots lost total interest in having him on the team and the way he sucked up to them while playing for the Vikings on that day in New England
and for more information and history of that classy act .
http://football.about.com/od/nationalfo ... antics.htm

Compared to what some people do, I don't think smoking pot is that big of a deal. Also, Apart from the hitting of the police officer, which is shocking, I dont really see anything that makes me think he can't be considered a class act by other players and anyone else that wants to. As for the Redskins thing, I am getting really sick of hearing about it. The only reason anyone today is "angry" over that is because Birk flipped a very public tit over it, for which he later tried to apologize. If he hadn't done that
no one would probably have known about it or at least remembered it as long as they have.

This quote is pretty damaging and always stuck with me, preventing me from being completely enamored by the guy.

"I play when I want to play," Moss said. "Do I play up to my top performance, my ability every time? Maybe not. I just keep doing what I do and that is playing football. When I make my mind up, I am going out there to tear somebody's head off. When I go out there and play football, man it's not anybody telling me to play or how I should play. I play when I want to play, case closed."

He demonstrated on more than one occasion this very attitude on the field.

Just imagine if he "wanted to play" all 60 minutes of every game. It's a shame we'll never know what he could've accomplished.

PurpleJarl wrote:Compared to what some people do, I don't think smoking pot is that big of a deal. Also, Apart from the hitting of the police officer, which is shocking, I dont really see anything that makes me think he can't be considered a class act by other players and anyone else that wants to. As for the Redskins thing, I am getting really sick of hearing about it. The only reason anyone today is "angry" over that is because Birk flipped a very public tit over it, for which he later tried to apologize. If he hadn't done that
no one would probably have known about it or at least remembered it as long as they have.

Yeah, your probably right he is pretty damn classy, except for the illegal drugs, hitting the cop, and quitting on the team and playing only when he wanted to

Purple bruise wrote:
Yeah, your probably right he is pretty damn classy, except for the illegal drugs, hitting the cop, and quitting on the team and playing only when he wanted to

And not to mention that meany Moss' contributions to the Feed the Children Caravan, Smile Network for Children, Starlight Children foundation, plus donating clothing and food to needy families, among the other horrible atrocities that he does.

I think Randy Moss is a complex character with both good and bad qualities, not unlike the rest of us (or at least any of us that haven't been perfect).

But you know what really truly pisses off the Moss haters? It's his 982 career receptions for 15292 yards and 156 TDs. And that doesn't go away.

losperros wrote:And not to mention that meany Moss' contributions to the Feed the Children Caravan, Smile Network for Children, Starlight Children foundation, plus donating clothing and food to needy families, among the other horrible atrocities that he does.

I think Randy Moss is a complex character with both good and bad qualities, not unlike the rest of us (or at least any of us that haven't been perfect).

But you know what really truly pisses off the Moss haters? It's his 982 career receptions for 15292 yards and 156 TDs. And that doesn't go away.

What ticks me off is that Moss tarnished his own reputation. As I said above, it's unfortunate because it leads to discussions like this when we could have been looking at his career numbers by now and celebrating his spectacular on-field achievements, his charitable side, etc. without any talk about all the silly, foolish things he did along the way. Instead, the bad always comes up with the good because as you said, he's a complex character with both qualities. He's a frustrating character as well. He's been his own worst enemy from the start and it's a shame because he accomplished some unbelievable things on the football field. Few players have been able to make me spring out of my chair with a "Whoa! Did you SEE that play?" like Randy Moss.

Moss was an unbelievably good player, but I always remember him being a cancer off the field. Love the guy as a player, but not so much a person.

Mothman wrote:What ticks me off is that Moss tarnished his own reputation. As I said above, it's unfortunate because it leads to discussions like this when we could have been looking at his career numbers by now and celebrating his spectacular on-field achievements, his charitable side, etc. without any talk about all the silly, foolish things he did along the way. Instead, the bad always comes up with the good because as you said, he's a complex character with both qualities. He's a frustrating character as well. He's been his own worst enemy from the start and it's a shame because he accomplished some unbelievable things on the football field. Few players have been able to make me spring out of my chair with a "Whoa! Did you SEE that play?" like Randy Moss.

I agree wholeheartedly with the above. It's just that I don't see Moss in a one-note way. He's the yin yang of NFL receivers.

One other thing. I can't help but recall with astonishment that the Vikings had Moss and Cris Carter on the team at the same time! My how things have changed...

losperros wrote:
I agree wholeheartedly with the above. It's just that I don't see Moss in a one-note way. He's the yin yang of NFL receivers.

One other thing. I can't help but recall with astonishment that the Vikings had Moss and Cris Carter on the team at the same time! My how things have changed...

Don't forget Jake Reed!

Mothman wrote: Don't forget Jake Reed!

You're right. What an incredible trio of receivers! Didn't they used to call themselves "three deep" or something like that?

losperros wrote: And not to mention that meany Moss' contributions to the Feed the Children Caravan, Smile Network for Children, Starlight Children foundation, plus donating clothing and food to needy families, among the other horrible atrocities that he does.

I think Randy Moss is a complex character with both good and bad qualities, not unlike the rest of us (or at least any of us that haven't been perfect).

But you know what really truly pisses off the Moss haters? It's his 982 career receptions for 15292 yards and 156 TDs. And that doesn't go away.

You dismiss his behaviour because he donates a fraction of the millions of dollars he has made to charitable (TAX DEDUCTABLE) organizations
Listen, when my kid was five years old I shelled out 60 bucks and bought him his first NFL jersey, a Randy Moss jersey.
He WAS one of the most , if not the most dynamic receivers ever to have played and I do not discount that fact what so ever. His criminal record and antics, to me anyway, has greatly tarnished my image of him. I guess that I am intitled to feel that way. Would I want one of my sons to grow up and be a super star NFL athelete, you bet I would. BUT if it meant that he behaved or conducted himself like Moss has then I would say hell no
To each there own.

Purple bruise wrote: You dismiss his behaviour because he donates a fraction of the millions of dollars he has made to charitable (TAX DEDUCTABLE) organizations
Listen, when my kid was five years old I shelled out 60 bucks and bought him his first NFL jersey, a Randy Moss jersey.
He WAS one of the most , if not the most dynamic receivers ever to have played and I do not discount that fact what so ever. His criminal record and antics, to me anyway, has greatly tarnished my image of him. I guess that I am intitled to feel that way. Would I want one of my sons to grow up and be a super star NFL athelete, you bet I would. BUT if it meant that he behaved or conducted himself like Moss has then I would say hell no
To each there own.

One question: Why the hell do you care SO much about what Randy Moss did off the field? In what aspect was your life affected by his off the field actions? If I could venture a guess, I would say his conduct away from the field had zero impact on your daily life.

Also, what did his actions ever lead to other than a few citations and some community service? FFS, you act like the guy murdered someone.

This team would have been vastly different if Randy Moss was never apart of the organization. Randy Moss was a Vikings legend and will be both a Ring of Honor inductee and a HOF someday in the near future.

HardcoreVikesFan wrote: One question: Why the hell do you care SO much about what Randy Moss did off the field? In what aspect was your life affected by his off the field actions? If I could venture a guess, I would say his conduct away from the field had zero impact on your daily life.

Also, what did his actions ever lead to other than a few citations and some community service? FFS, you act like the guy murdered someone.

This team would have been vastly different if Randy Moss was never apart of the organization. Randy Moss was a Vikings legend and will be both a Ring of Honor inductee and a HOF someday in the near future.

I was not aware that it affected my life in any way what so ever. Pretty sure I am not acting as if he 'Murdered anyone" I would say, as an example, why should what Vick did off the field bother anyone else? When your a pro athelet in the limelight I imagine that your off the field antics and criminal activities does reflect on one's opinion of someone, regardless if he is an NFL player or a co-worker (You don't get that ).
My main thrust was his antics on the field, such as walking off the field while the rest of the team was still playing their butts off trying to some how win, and coming out and admitting that he only plays when he wants to. Again, I would ask why the Patriots distanced themselves far away from him? And why, after leaving the Vikings did his production go to hell (except his brief stay in New England). You Moss apologists can say and think what you want but in my opinion I will repeat he WAS the most dynamic wide receiver of all time But I do not like or respect him as a pro football athelete or as a human being. JUST MY OPINION