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dead_poet wrote:

I like to hear that!

Hunter is going to be a beast ... when he gets a good tool box full of spin moves etc etc ...

I am hoping by next season we have a new starter at Robison's spot...

I am hoping by next season we have a new starter at Robison's spot...

I am hoping by the start of the regular season we have a new starter at Robison's spot...

Demi wrote: I am hoping by the start of the regular season we have a new starter at Robison's spot...

Agreed to the

Demi wrote: I am hoping by the start of the regular season we have a new starter at Robison's spot...

Exactly my thoughts. Robison extension was not one of managements better ideas. That and Robison just need more breathers.

I think they plan on rotating them a lot. It will both maximize Robison's usefulness and allows Hunter to not be completely thrown in or feel too much pressure.

I think they plan on rotating them a lot. It will both maximize Robison's usefulness and allows Hunter to not be completely thrown in or feel too much pressure.

Yes that seems to be the plan.. its smart especially as the season wears on...

The Giants did that in their super bowl seasons ...

Demi wrote: I am hoping by the start of the regular season we have a new starter at Robison's spot...

I just counted FOUR times, where you mentioned he should start over Robison in this thread alone. You're averaging one Robison comment per page. I think we get it dude, you're trying to stir the pot. However, your logic behind a 20 year old, raw, project player starting over an older veteran is about as senseless as it gets. Try to actually watch these preseason games and maybe you'll realize that Hunter isn't anywhere close to starting. He has struggled to get by 2nd and 3rd teamers let alone 1st team guys.

Try to actually watch these preseason games and maybe you'll realize that Hunter isn't anywhere close to starting.

Try to actually watch Robison is REAL games and maybe you'll realize why I'm repeatedly bringing this up. I clearly stated last season to focus on Robison in games and you'd see what I'm talking about, obviously you didn't. Others did, and in the following weeks supported my position.

Demi wrote: Try to actually watch Robison is REAL games and maybe you'll realize why I'm repeatedly bringing this up. I clearly stated last season to focus on Robison in games and you'd see what I'm talking about, obviously you didn't. Others did, and in the following weeks supported my position.

Rarely do I agree with Demi's (at times) harsh cynicism, yet I couldnt agree more here. Your just flat out wrong on this one php, hunter has not only impressed coaches to the point of getting in the rotation with the one's throughout the preseason, he has been dominant. I did a detailed analysis of every snap he took so far and to say that the kid has been phenomenally dominant would not be an egregious misrepresentation.

He had the most hurries on our team in preseason, and was second in hurries while getting first team reps.

I really am confounded to find these plays where you say he is "struggling against third teamers"

Learn defensive schematics, even on passing downs, a DE's ssignment is not always pure pass rush, sometimes they have to stay home, fill gaps, read chip routes, contain etc.. Maybe try understanding the game of football before throwing out misguided inaccurate criticisms.

Fact is, the writings on the wall for b Rob. Our staff loves hunter, and thinks well enough of trattou and Crichton to keep 5 DE's.

Show me these so called plays where he "struggles"

I'll wait

My prediction is at seasons end, hunter has more snaps than b rob

BRob is an average / above average cover 2 pass rusher. He's a liability in this defense. I brought it up multiple times last season. Finally resorting to asking posters to focus on him. And when they finally did, they saw what I was seeing the entire season. He's a liability. He doesn't have the size/physicality to do what he's being asked to do. He seems to have added mass this offseason, and still can't do the job.

He was drafted to play in a cover 2, we brought in a new defensive system. And he's hurting the team in it. Week 1, watch him. The GM signed/extended him for a different system, and we're paying for it. There are backup defensive tackles who could do his job better.

BRob is an average / above average cover 2 pass rusher. He's a liability in this defense. I brought it up multiple times last season. Finally resorting to asking posters to focus on him. And when they finally did, they saw what I was seeing the entire season. He's a liability. He doesn't have the size/physicality to do what he's being asked to do. He seems to have added mass this offseason, and still can't do the job.

He was drafted to play in a cover 2, we brought in a new defensive system. And he's hurting the team in it. Week 1, watch him. The GM signed/extended him for a different system, and we're paying for it. There are backup defensive tackles who could do his job better.

That is one of the main reasons switching systems hurts teams.. Look at Oakland they have not had one system for more than one season or so...
They keep having to re draft over and over. I like Robison as a person but I never thought he was great in either system.

Demi wrote: Try to actually watch Robison is REAL games and maybe you'll realize why I'm repeatedly bringing this up. I clearly stated last season to focus on Robison in games and you'd see what I'm talking about, obviously you didn't. Others did, and in the following weeks supported my position.

I never once said Robison was playing well so that's just typical you putting words into my mouth. WHAT I SAID WAS, if you think a raw, project 20 year old should be starting over Robison, you really are clueless. He was struggling against 2nd and 3rd teamers and is nowhere near ready. You obviously hear what you want to hear and read what you want to read. I never once defended Robisons play last year. I simply said, Hunter is nowhere near close to starting. You just want to continue to bring up Robison 20 times in a thread like you're proving something new. We get it.

Demi wrote:Wouldn't take much to be better than Robison in this defense...

Demi wrote:and probably replace Robison as the primary end sooner rather than later, learning the position the entire time.

Demi wrote:Should be starting over Robison...

Demi wrote:I am hoping by the start of the regular season we have a new starter at Robison's spot...

......sounds a little repetitive to me to say the least.

Ok, you both have made your points... Lets try to focus on the topic and how he will help the, Vikings in his career.

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