Cousins Extended

[VikingsVictorious]

It's so short because Kirk bets on himself and wants short contracts.

It is short because that is all the Vikings would give him.

No. It's short because that's what he wants.

[VikingsVictorious]

You might want to check his overall record.

In the NFL? I think even after this year with the rams he still has a losing record.

Though I always find it funny that the one guy people point to is a good QB who played his entire career for the worst franchise in sports. He leaves that franchise and voila; Super Bowl winning QB!

I think he was referring to Kirk. Stafford has a losing record without question.

[VikingsVictorious]

His under pressure stats are very good. He throws a good ball under pressure or not.

His under pressure stats are worse than Wentz.

You have your right to be wrong.

[JJBreaksRecords]

If we never extended him, we could have been done with him before last season and wouldn't have been in a position to extend him for another season. We're 3 years behind on a necessary rebuild. We could have had a new GM, HC and quarterback for an entire season already. That's what drives me crazy with this Cousins extension of the extension and extending Spielman and Zimmer off that wild card game. It genuinely put this franchise 3+ years behind where it should be taking into account that void year stuff which is relief now for pain later. I hate it. I cannot tell you how much I hate this.

Kirk is a very good QB. Sure we could have gone the rebuild route and good chance we'd be rebuilding for the next 10 years.

What makes you think we still wont be rebuilding for 10 years? Plus 2-3 years while Kirk plays here? I really hope the Wilfs arent making the calls a GM should be making.

[Fat Stupid Loser]

KIRK!!!

[halfgiz]

QB Kirk Cousins: One year, $35 million fully guaranteed
Cousins wasn’t a free agent this offseason, but the Vikings tacked on another year of fully guaranteed security to his future in Minnesota amidst speculation that the team could be looking in a different direction with a coaching staff and front office change.

Cousins is one of the most divisive quarterbacks in the league due to his playstyle and the gap between his passing numbers and his team’s success. When everything is as it should be, Cousins looks and grades like one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. He has a top-five PFF passing grade from a clean pocket since joining Minnesota. It’s when things start to break down and Cousins has to make a play that his numbers start to fall closer to the middle of the pack. This deal indicates that the Vikings still have the belief they can make that work in the next two years.
Grade: Below average

[VikingsVictorious]

Kirk is a very good QB. Sure we could have gone the rebuild route and good chance we'd be rebuilding for the next 10 years.

What makes you think we still wont be rebuilding for 10 years? Plus 2-3 years while Kirk plays here? I really hope the Wilfs are making the calls a GM should be making.

As long as we have Kirk we should be good on offense.

[vikeinmontana]

In the NFL? I think even after this year with the rams he still has a losing record.

Though I always find it funny that the one guy people point to is a good QB who played his entire career for the worst franchise in sports. He leaves that franchise and voila; Super Bowl winning QB!

I think he was referring to Kirk. Stafford has a losing record without question.

Ah that makes sense. Kirks is right there at mediocre too. Think I saw 59-59-2. But the dude has made his money so I guess there’s that!

[JJBreaksRecords]

What makes you think we still wont be rebuilding for 10 years? Plus 2-3 years while Kirk plays here? I really hope the Wilfs are making the calls a GM should be making.

As long as we have Kirk we should be good on offense.

Like all the years Kirk has been playing already? Or is everything Zimmers fault? Did you look at the Vikings records the past few years? Part of those losses were his fault. But KOC will work miracles with someone whose main concerns are getting rich, and putting up great stats. Not wins and especially tough wins against winning teams.

[StumpHunter]

His under pressure stats are worse than Wentz.

You have your right to be wrong.

I have the right to look at the stats and see Wentz had a significantly higher YPA, completion percentage and passer rating under pressure than Cousins 5.2 YPA, 45 completion % and 72 passer rating.

Are those numbers "really good"? Don't seem like it to me.

[VikingsVictorious]

I think he was referring to Kirk. Stafford has a losing record without question.

Ah that makes sense. Kirks is right there at mediocre too. Think I saw 59-59-2. But the dude has made his money so I guess there’s that!

Stafford is evidence that a QB doesn't need to have a good record to be a good QB. Cousins record is mediocre, but he's every bit as good as Stafford and I would say better.

[VikingsVictorious]

You have your right to be wrong.

I have the right to look at the stats and see Wentz had a significantly higher YPA, completion percentage and passer rating under pressure than Cousins 5.2 YPA, 45 completion % and 72 passer rating.

Are those numbers "really good"? Don't seem like it to me.

You will only post stats when they support you. I know you've seen many stats that support how good Cousins is under pressure and not under pressure and under many kinds of circumstances. You will only quote stats from this year if they're below his norms, but if they're above his norms you will state his career stats. You know you do this. You know you don't discuss in good faith.

[VikingsVictorious]

As long as we have Kirk we should be good on offense.

Like all the years Kirk has been playing already? Or is everything Zimmers fault? Did you look at the Vikings records the past few years? Part of those losses were his fault. But KOC will work miracles with someone whose main concerns are getting rich, and putting up great stats. Not wins and especially tough wins against winning teams.

Kirk controls what is in his control. Makes good passes, has a high YPA, throws TDs and doesn't throw interceptions. Definitely one of the 10 best QBs in the world and you may not like him, but Vikings management does.

[makila]

FA guards being signed. Scherff to jax and Corbett to car.

We have to do something on the interior.

[IIsweet]

I have the right to look at the stats and see Wentz had a significantly higher YPA, completion percentage and passer rating under pressure than Cousins 5.2 YPA, 45 completion % and 72 passer rating.

Are those numbers "really good"? Don't seem like it to me.

You will only post stats when they support you. I know you've seen many stats that support how good Cousins is under pressure and not under pressure and under many kinds of circumstances. You will only quote stats from this year if they're below his norms, but if they're above his norms you will state his career stats. You know you do this. You know you don't discuss in good faith.

What I was saying is that Kirk is quick to check down and not stay true to the big play route. He is quick to abandon that route and find the safety valve. It is great for padding stats. I just wish we had a better interior OL. I would like to see Kirk stay in there and utilize his throwing skills hitting the deep WR, deep can even be a 15-20 yard throw. I feel that he has to trust the route better and throw it to the spots regardless if they appear open at the time of the pass. He trusts his eyes, not the plan.
He throws to the open guy, not to the spot as often as I wish.
Hopefully KOC gets him to do so. If he does, we may see a very different KC this season.
Maybe not, but we will soon find out !