Re: Toxic Leadership
Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 11:44 am
fiestavike wrote:Zimmer tried to call Riki Ellison. Riki did not return his call.![]()
via Zimmer on PA's show.
I love Zimmer.

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fiestavike wrote:Zimmer tried to call Riki Ellison. Riki did not return his call.![]()
via Zimmer on PA's show.
I love Zimmer.
That's good.Just Me wrote:Maybe Riki did lose that number...![]()
(Plagiarized joke, but I couldn't pass it up!)
Just Me wrote:Maybe Riki did lose that number...![]()
(Plagiarized joke, but I couldn't pass it up!)
Pondering Her Percy wrote: When would we have fired him? Because we lost two games in a row? Even the year before our offense wasn't great but we were still 11-5. We didn't necessarily need to fire him
....because thats what I'm doingBoon wrote:
Striving for mediocrity will bite you
Actually saw it here: http://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/3/21/ ... s-commentsPsyDanny wrote:
Didn't happen to see that on yesterdays Facebook KFAN thread on Mr. Riki?
'Cuz if you did...
I did not post to that page, but to a KFAN tread on Facebook.Just Me wrote: Actually saw it here: http://www.dailynorseman.com/2017/3/21/ ... s-comments
(Hence, my disclaimer about the joke being "plagiarized" - Just thought it was funny)
Was it you that posted it originally?
Not a personal attack by any means, but I get the feeling you just like arguing. Because saying they went 11-5 the year before, and still had the 29th ranked offense, then questioning why they would fire him after two losses, when the team was now ranked 32nd in offense at the time of his "leaving", is striving for mediocrity. Keeping him there after 27, 29, and 32nd (at the time) nfl offensive yardage rankings is striving for mediocrity. Keeping an offensive coordinator who has a bottom feeder offense despite having the third ranked yardage defense, 7th in turnovers, and 6th ranked scoring defense , is striving for mediocrity. why fire him? you ask that and then try to use sarcasm to deflect something you JUST STATEDPondering Her Percy wrote: ....because thats what I'm doing
No I don't like "just arguing". I don't come on here to argue. But when was the last time you saw a coach get fired shortly after starting a season 5-0?? I don't think that has ever happened to be honest. I never said the offense was doing good under him. But at the same time, you don't see a coach get fired when the team is doing well. And for our offense at that time, the running game was still terrible but the passing game was doing fairly well. When we were 5-0 Bradford was averaging 250 a game and had 6 TDs and 0 INTs in 4 games. Just because we have 2 bad games in a row offensively doesnt warrant any coach getting fired. Especially when you're 5-2. It just doesnt happen.Boon wrote:
Not a personal attack by any means, but I get the feeling you just like arguing. Because saying they went 11-5 the year before, and still had the 29th ranked offense, then questioning why they would fire him after two losses, when the team was now ranked 32nd in offense at the time of his "leaving", is striving for mediocrity. Keeping him there after 27, 29, and 32nd (at the time) nfl offensive yardage rankings is striving for mediocrity. Keeping an offensive coordinator who has a bottom feeder offense despite having the third ranked yardage defense, 7th in turnovers, and 6th ranked scoring defense , is striving for mediocrity. why fire him? you ask that and then try to use sarcasm to deflect something you JUST STATED
Of course the D was playing great but the offense wasnt that bad at all during that stretch. Especially the passing game. Running game was bad. But to say the offense was anemic in the first five games I disagree with. I would say bad running game and solid pass game. That doesnt define anemicchicagopurple wrote:Not necessarily true, AND the hot start we got out to was 90% due to a great defensive effort carrying an anemic offense. We won those 5 games despite the poor offense, not because of a good offense. Eventually, our defense fatigued out and couldnt cover up the atrocious excuse for an offense that we had and the tailspin began. Not all of this is due to the OC, heck, very little of it was. No OC could win with the sad excuse for a OL he was given, or the RB by committee of back-ups, etc.
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Of course the D was playing great but the offense wasnt that bad at all during that stretch. Especially the passing game. Running game was bad. But to say the offense was anemic in the first five games I disagree with. I would say bad running game and solid pass game. That doesnt define anemic