Week 4 Predictions: Vikings at Broncos

fiestavike · Post by **fiestavike** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:51 pm

20-16 Broncos.

Vikings are still outdoors on the road. Not been a recipe for success in the past. I think they keep it respectable this time though.

frosted · Post by **frosted** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:11 pm

I'll go 27-13, Denver. Hope I am wrong.

Season Prediction Record: 2-1

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Norv Zimmer · Post by **Norv Zimmer** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:42 pm

Norv Zimmer wrote: What if Peyton gets sacked and is out for the game? Or our O line plays phenomenal and holds their defense to 0 sacks and very few hurries? Or how bout AP goes off and gets 300 yards and 4 Tds? Or how bout Teddy has a great game 300 yards and 4 tds?
I think there is plenty of ways we could pull out a win.

It's pretty hilarious how much of a stir this post is making on denvers message board.

They didn'tread the whole thread I am thinking. I was stating to a previous poster that said "I don't see any way we could win this game." There are many ways we could win this game. I just posted a few over the top examples that could happen.... emphasis on could.

Jordysghost · Post by **Jordysghost** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 2:57 pm

Norv Zimmer wrote: It's pretty hilarious how much of a stir this post is making on denvers message board.

They didn'tread the whole thread I am thinking. I was stating to a previous poster that said "I don't see any way we could win this game." There are many ways we could win this game. I just posted a few over the top examples that could happen.... emphasis on could.

Earlier today I saw some 32 guests active a the same time, I have never seen that many before and I was wondering why considering that it isnt gameday, I think the Broncos fans apparent lurking might explain such a thing, that.

DK Sweets · Post by **DK Sweets** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:25 pm

Norv Zimmer wrote: It's pretty hilarious how much of a stir this post is making on denvers message board.

They didn'tread the whole thread I am thinking. I was stating to a previous poster that said "I don't see any way we could win this game." There are many ways we could win this game. I just posted a few over the top examples that could happen.... emphasis on could.

I didn't know how to incorporate those responses into the EFF (I really like hat acronym) thread without it getting messy, but that gave me a good chuckle, too.

DK Sweets · Post by **DK Sweets** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 3:57 pm

Okay. I finally have time to do my prediction for this week.

Offensively, the Vikings have a tough task. Von Miller attacking TJ Clemmings is an obvious advantage for them. I'm not nearly as worried about Demarcus Ware against Matt Kalil. In no way am I suggesting that Ware is not a good player, but I think at this point in their careers, Ware is overvalued for his past performance while Kalil is undervalued based on the past two years. In reality, I think both players are above average and roughly equal, so while I don't think Ware is an easy task, I think it's one that Kalil can manage without having to alter the game plan extensively.

Their ILB tandem is very solid, but fortunately we have had solid guard play and Rudolph has likewise been productive. I wouldn't expect a big game out of Rudy, but I think their players will again be neutralized by ours.

Their Secondary is intimidating, but our offense hasn't moved based on the strength of our passing game, anyways. If our receivers seem to be uninvolved it will just be another day at the office...but if we end up falling behind early, this could end up being very, very bad for.

Fortunately, we have the best RB in the league and they have a porous run defense. Kansas City made the same mistake that we made against SF and took the ball away from the best player on the team trying to get cute. It obviously didn't work, and I don't expect Norv to make that same mistake again. If they can stop Peterson, we'll have to throw it (that's a scary proposition against this secondary) but I expect them to have to devote quite a bit of resources to do that. Hopefully, if they can stop Peterson, Teddy finds openings down the field. Even better: hopefully they can't stop Peterson.

Defensively I feel much more confident. Let's move straight to the main topic: Manning is not who he used to be. I strongly believe that to beat this team, you cover the short passes. Between the pass rush and Manning's noticeably weaker arm, the deep ball doesn't scare me like it did against the last two QBs we faced.

Granted, DT and Emmanuel Sanders are real threats, but I really like our chances of clamping Xavier down on one side, leaving Sandejo/Blanton on top, and taking our chances by playing half of the field with the rest of our coverage. I wouldn't be shocked if we see Trae Waynes come in and we play a lot of press coverage, because this pass rush is going to be humming and disrupting the timing of Manning's passes is going to be key. Plus, Xavier/Waynes/Harrison is a big height advantage to work against if Manning has to lob a pass under pressure.

The have a rookie LT, and two guards at less than 100%. If this doesn't excite you as a Vikings fan, I don't know what will. It doesn't bode well for their pass protection against our vicious front 7 and it doesn't bode well for their (thus far) anemic running game.

Honestly, the thing that scares me more than anything in this game is the altitude combined with our poor performance on the road.

I think that this is a really close matchup and I'm not going to pick a winner. I will say this: I expect it to be decided in the last 2 minutes of the game.

I always pick a "key" stat for the game that I think will decide the outcome, so here it is: If our defense holds The Broncos RBs to under 150 yards, the Vikings will enter the bye week at 3-1.

Norv Zimmer · Post by **Norv Zimmer** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 4:48 pm

Cj anderson has like 87 yds in 3 games. I don't think they run on us.

DK Sweets · Post by **DK Sweets** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:07 pm

Norv Zimmer wrote:Cj anderson has like 87 yds in 3 games. I don't think they run on us.

As a team they only have 171 yards on the season, so at face value my prediction seems weird. Just call it a hunch. I feel like if they win its because we committed to the pass so much that they finally find room to run. I really feel like if they win, it will not be because Manning was allowed to have a big day.

Norv Zimmer · Post by **Norv Zimmer** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:26 pm

I really hope they use greenway/kendricks a lot. I think they are our best cover linebackers. Use them to help with short passes in the middle of the field. Hodges and barr will run support and blitz.

Pondering Her Percy · Post by **Pondering Her Percy** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 8:51 pm

Norv Zimmer wrote:I really hope they use greenway/kendricks a lot. I think they are our best cover linebackers. Use them to help with short passes in the middle of the field. Hodges and barr will run support and blitz.

Greenway is definitely not our best cover LB

84BreaksAnkles · Post by **84BreaksAnkles** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:02 pm

DK Sweets wrote:I always pick a "key" stat for the game that I think will decide the outcome, so here it is: If our defense holds The Broncos RBs to under 150 yards, the Vikings will enter the bye week at 3-1.

Considering the Lions allowed under 50 rushing yards to the entire Denver offense, I would be extremely disappointed if we allowed 130 or any where near 75 yds on the ground.

Denver has obviously shown that they can win a game with less than 50 yds rushing, so I don't see the confidence angle regarding this specific stat.

If I were to pick a *stat that will determine the game it will be our sack ratio at +3 by the end of the game (Ted getting sacked once, Peyton- 4 times..etc) Then I guarantee we win.

DK Sweets · Post by **DK Sweets** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 9:18 pm

You pick your key stat, I pick mine.

By the way, if they run for 157 yards and win, you guys will never hear the end of it!

84BreaksAnkles · Post by **84BreaksAnkles** » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:57 pm

DK Sweets wrote:You pick your key stat, I pick mine.

By the way, if they run for 157 yards and win, you guys will never hear the end of it!

Well, when we hold them to under 80 and still lose be ready for some hard questions..

(this is only if Xavier can't go or is <%85)

Norv Zimmer · Post by **Norv Zimmer** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:16 am

Xavier has been a fill participant in practice wednesday and Thursday. He is playing

mansquatch · Post by **mansquatch** » Fri Oct 02, 2015 9:10 am

Great Summary DK, I agree on your major points. IMO, the key to this game security and field position. If we can avoid Manning having a short field and instead force them to drive 80 yards for their points then I feel our Defense will keep us in the game and give us an opportunity to win. I think they've won a few games because Coaches are thinking they need to score fast to stay with Manning, they make mistakes, and Denver's Defense punishes them for it.

This is a very interesting game in that both teams are built well to exploit the other's weaknesses.

One thing that scares me is that if we play clean this could be a game that is a 14-14 tie late in the 4th quarter. I hope Walsh doesn't blow it for us...

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