Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:11 am
@eric_j_thompson: #Vikings offense bottom 5 PFF ratings Monday:
5. Johnson -1.0
4. Wright -1.1
3. Berger -1.4
2. Ellison -1.8
1. Fusco -3.1
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Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:15 am
I honestly think this loss is on the coaches, Norv tried to get too cute with the play calling, with AP you use the run to open up the pass, unfortunately the 49ers knew we were going to go play action right off the bat. Zimmer needs to get into these guys ####, and keep it simple until everything is in the swing of things. They didn't game plan well, and the 9ers were beating us on ultra simplistic play calls, I wanted to throw up.
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:21 am
ADRIAN PETERSON SAID HE FELT "A LITTLE HESITANT" TAKING HANDOFFS OUT OF THE SHOTGUN MONDAY NIGHT.
Peterson is accustomed to offenses which run primarily under center, and his ability to transition to the more shotgun-heavy offense the Vikings are using now was a concern in the preseason. "It’s different because you’re not able to get that full speed, that full steam going," Peterson said. "But you can be successful doing it. The guys did a great job of doing it last year. I feel like I can run in any type of formation." Peterson is one of the best backs the NFL has ever seen, and he showed flashes of that brilliance on Monday night. He will be fine.
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:38 am
To me, those two just did their job. You know, it looked like they did well but the play around them was so bad that they stood out?PurpleMustReign wrote:One player who actually had a good game that should be mentioned was Kyle Rudolph. He got open, caught the ball, and made plays. He and Barr were about it though.
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Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:47 am
@eric_j_thompson: The #Vikings got a -15.5 run defense rating from PFF as a team Week 1, good for worst in the NFL. Next worst? #Colts with -7.8.
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:52 am
Barr did not do his job. big whoop, he made tackles. He left gaping holes by not taking on blockers.CbusVikesFan wrote: To me, those two just did their job. You know, it looked like they did well but the play around them was so bad that they stood out?
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:53 am
To add insult to injury the Vikings gave up a whopping 230 yds on 39 attempts and a 5.9 avg. I would say that we could use a LB or 3?dead_poet wrote:
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:54 am
It was so bad I would actually consider adding Jasper Brinkley. Did he make the Cowboys roster?CbusVikesFan wrote: To add insult to injury the Vikings gave up a whopping 230 yds on 39 attempts and a 5.9 avg. I would say that we could use a LB or 3?
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 11:56 am
What I cannot understand is knowing this philosophy why do the Vikings insist on not following it?Mothman wrote: By being strong up front? Yes, indeedly doodly!
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Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:00 pm
Preaching to the choir here. Nobody on this board has complained about the LB position more than I have over the past few years. Brinkley has been a past problem, I would like to keep him there but in lieu of Greenway and Hodges playing so badly, I would not rule it out.fiestavike wrote: Barr did not do his job. big whoop, he made tackles. He left gaping holes by not taking on blockers.
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:24 pm
Raptorman wrote:As bad as it looked last night, I don't think it was as bad as you are all making it out to be. San Fran obviously did not take a step back in their defense losing the players they did. They also tossed in some D formations that took the Vikings by surprise. That's being out coached. As for AP. When he only gets 10 carries he is not going to do anything. He needs 20 minimum. As to Bridgewater. He made a few bad throws but in my eyes was not as bad as most of you think. The o-line. They need to step up and protect him better.
Good take.
The hardest pill to swallow was how badly we got pushed around. Our run D just looked horrid. Really unsound football.
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 12:32 pm
In that scenario, SF's D would have to be as bad as our's, in which case I'd completely agree.Mothman wrote: If Peterson had been running behind the SF line last night, with the way they were opening holes and pushing Vikes defenders around, he might have gained 200 yards.
It all starts up front, folks.
Both of our lines are in sorry shape. There's nothing worse than watching your team get absolutely manhandled in the trenches. It was EXACTLY what I feared would happen (and got ripped for it in the prediction thread).
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:08 pm
I place most of the blame for last night's lost on the coaching staff. When the 49ers threw their 3 TE formations at the Vikings defense, I did not see any adjustment made by the staff. They seemed to have 1 game plan set and refused to change it. After Sedenjo blocked the FG in the 1st quarter. Turner could have used that to change the whole momentum around, instead of giving the ball to AD, they threw the ball in all the possession. 49ers D did not fall for it what so ever.
What bothered me the most was how indecisive Zimmer was last night. The re-punt, the decision to kick a 63 yard FG or go for the Hail Mary. It really seemed like amateur night last night.
My solace is that this is the 1st game. I still think this team is an above .500 team. I just hope things like what I saw last night never happens again.
What bothered me the most was how indecisive Zimmer was last night. The re-punt, the decision to kick a 63 yard FG or go for the Hail Mary. It really seemed like amateur night last night.
My solace is that this is the 1st game. I still think this team is an above .500 team. I just hope things like what I saw last night never happens again.
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:24 pm
No, no... in that scenario Peterson would be running against the Vikings defense.Texas Vike wrote: In that scenario, SF's D would have to be as bad as our's, in which case I'd completely agree.
i feared it too. Two of their biggest problems last season were blocking on offense and stopping the run on defense and they didn't do much this offseason to address either problem. Presumably, that was the point of a few of their draft picks. Maybe they'll make a difference as the season moves forward.Both of our lines are in sorry shape. There's nothing worse than watching your team get absolutely manhandled in the trenches. It was EXACTLY what I feared would happen (and got ripped for it in the prediction thread).
Re: Thoughts
Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2015 1:32 pm
Mothman wrote:
Losing the battle of the trenches on both sides of the ball is beyond irritating. What's worse, it affects everything the team is trying to do.
Seriously, can the Vikings clean up problems that have been around for a while in just one season? I'm not so sure.
I'm hoping the team can improve enough so that they're at least difficult to beat at home. I'm pretty much used to seeing the Vikings implode during road games.