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Mothman wrote:
I don't and such differences in perspective seem to be the crux of the disagreement here. I understand and appreciate the positive take on this game that you, Lenny and others are providing and hey, I'm a lot happier they had a chance to beat a 3-0 team on the road then I was after the 49ers manhandled them on MNF. However, whether this game is evidence of growth, whether it's seen as an indication that the team is moving towards better days and postseason wins or still mired in mediocrity and unable to get over the hump is largely a matter of perspective. Is the glass half full or half empty? The defense gave up the big running play they couldn't afford to allow. They gave up the late scoring drive they couldn't afford to allow. Sure, they hit hard. They made some great plays, intercepted Manning, etc. and all of that stuff is encouraging but how many times in recent years have we seen the Vikes give up that drive they couldn't afford to give up? Too many... and they're still doing it. Different team, same story. What I would really love is to see them shut down teams when those teams most need to score, close out games when it's time to close them out. That would make me love what I was seeing out of the defense. It's hard to love 144 yards rushing for a team that was one of the league's worst rushing teams going into this game, especially when improved run defense was a point of emphasis this summer.

halfgiz wrote: Teddy's QB rating today 92 .4 - Peyton's rating was 68. What are you looking for?

Bigwehrm wrote:
Really what Teddy are you watching?? How many receivers did he miss bad today? How many sacks did he just step into. He is no,franchise qb. I hope i eat my words someday but as of now fire up the tape of the college qbs and get some scouts out there.

PacificNorseWest wrote:This is fair and I especially agree with the first sentence. There's no use getting too bent over this discussion, because perspectives and opinions are so varied. But hey...It is a discussion board, so that's why this is the good stuff, in my opinion.

A.D_blazing wrote:Diggs will become a good player for the Vikings. He ran a nice route on broncos best CB talib. That was a beauty!

halfgiz wrote: Teddy's QB rating today 92 .4 - Peyton's rating was 68. What are you looking for?

mosscarter wrote:to criticize teddy today with that line shows the mentality of a browns or raiders fan.

Mothman wrote: I don't and such differences in perspective seem to be the crux of the disagreement here. I understand and appreciate the positive take on this game that you, Lenny and others are providing and hey, I'm a lot happier they had a chance to beat a 3-0 team on the road then I was after the 49ers manhandled them on MNF. However, whether this game is evidence of growth, whether it's seen as an indication that the team is moving towards better days and postseason wins or still mired in mediocrity and unable to get over the hump is largely a matter of perspective. Is the glass half full or half empty? The defense gave up the big running play they couldn't afford to allow. They gave up the late scoring drive they couldn't afford to allow. Sure, they hit hard. They made some great plays, intercepted Manning, etc. and all of that stuff is encouraging but how many times in recent years have we seen the Vikes give up that drive they couldn't afford to give up? Too many... and they're still doing it. Different team, same story. What I would really love is to see them shut down teams when those teams most need to score, close out games when it's time to close them out. That would make me love what I was seeing out of the defense. It's hard to love 144 yards rushing for a team that was one of the league's worst rushing teams going into this game, especially when improved run defense was a point of emphasis this summer.

HardcoreVikesFan wrote:- Yet again, too many big plays and too many critical downs surrendered on defense. Rhodes was flagged at least three times. Defensive line did little to dominate today.

- The offensive line doesn't have even have one single pro-bowl potential starter right now. I am so tired of the offensive line playing like absolute crap every single year. Spielman has been here 5 years now as the guy in charge and has yet to put together a above-avergae offensive line. Teddy was under siege all day.

- Cordarrelle Patterson may as well just be traded away for peanuts as he didn't do a damn thing all day. The coaching staff is clearly never going to get him involved and it appears that he still can't run routes well.

- Kyle Rudolph doesn't deserve his contract.

Pondering Her Percy wrote:
I disagree with some of this. I think Kalil has played exceptionally well all season. And for the 2nd time, if our offensive line was healthy, they would be a solid offensive line. Especially with Kalil playing better now. I don't care who you are, if you lose your 2 best offensive lineman, you're in trouble. Look at where most of the pressure is coming from...... up the middle (Berger) and the right side (Clemmings). The two spots we're hurt at.