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S197 wrote: No, and there never will be. He's not going to come flat out and say he does not want to come back but lets look at what we do know:

1) He stated if it were up to his wife, he wouldn't be in Minnesota
2) His agent had a very public fight with Brez at the combine and stated Peterson will never play for the Vikings
3) He's stated he's uneasy about his return
4) A family member has stated he wants out

Now any single one of those is probably nothing but you take them all together along with the media reports and it sure looks like there's a lot of smoke. And when there's a lot of smoke, there's usually a fire. Not always, but it doesn't look very good.

But if he really, honestly and truly wanted out, he should be restructuring his contract. There are almost no teams in the NFL that can take that on right now,especially contending teams. This whole thing just doesn't add up.

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rugbyrugger23 wrote:I wouldn't count Dallas out of the picture yet. They would need to send out player(s) for cap reasons.

What about Claiborne? See what Zimmer can do with him. Add in a pick, a conditional pick next year, have AP restructure his deal. Done.

Lol, you don't pay attention much do you. If it was that simple, AD would have already restructured don't you think? And common sense says that the Vikings certainly havr asked by now.

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S197 wrote: No, and there never will be. He's not going to come flat out and say he does not want to come back but lets look at what we do know:

1) He stated if it were up to his wife, he wouldn't be in Minnesota
2) His agent had a very public fight with Brez at the combine and stated Peterson will never play for the Vikings
3) He's stated he's uneasy about his return
4) A family member has stated he wants out

Now any single one of those is probably nothing but you take them all together along with the media reports and it sure looks like there's a lot of smoke. And when there's a lot of smoke, there's usually a fire. Not always, but it doesn't look very good.

Oh I agree this doesn't look good. Nothing has looked good since September of last year, but he's still a Viking. Players have openly requested trades before, having endured less than what Peterson has (blame aside). Since he has not requested a trade or made any intentions or conclusions known, we COULD assume that he does truly want to move on but is being hushed, OR that he genuinely has not come to any final decisions. When describing how he felt betrayed by some in Minnesota, he also went on to say something like (paraphrasing here) "this coming from the state I love, that I want to bring a championship to". I remember reading that and taking notice of his choice of words, the state he loves, not lov"ed", the team he wants to bring a championship to, not want"ed". In the midst of all this turmoil it would have been easy for him to reveal his feelings right there had he given up on us already. See, there I go trying to make something out of nothing, just like the media.

Superman wrote: 1) He stated if it were up to his wife, he wouldn't be in Minnesota
2) His agent had a very public fight with Brez at the combine and stated Peterson will never play for the Vikings
3) He's stated he's uneasy about his return
4) A family member has stated he wants out
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Here's four responses from me:

1) I find his attitude amazing. He acts like an uncivilized beast off-the-field and the Vikes do their best under the circumstances to stand by him.
2) But instead of taking responsibility for living like a jerk and thanking the Vikes for their support, he acts like they should have done more for him.
3) Screw this guy. Leave aside the irresponsibility of spreading your seed hither and yon. Who ever hears of brutally beating your four year old because the kid "doesn't tear" after you started to beat him? That sounds like a concept right out of a horror movie or some sort of dystopian drama. ("The kid didn't tear so I beat his balls. You got to 'learn the young-in or he'll grow up bad. Trust me, I know.")
4) My main reason for hoping that we don't trade him is that I don't want to give in to him -- if it would make him happy to get traded, then let's keep him. It's not like we're contending anyway, as we are a 7-9 team for which no coveted free agent seems to want to play.

Frankly, the above isn't how I'm thinking, but it sure describes how I'm feeling. Intellectually, I'm hoping that this blows over and Peterson plays for us unless another team comes up with a big offer (i.e., gives up a first rounder). Emotionally, I'm just one cranky Vikings fan -- though I still support the head coach.

It's getting to the point where I don't even like AP anymore and I can't believe it's gotten to that point. TRADE HIM RICK!! It's better for the future of this team

I would not go so far as to call Adrian Peterson a "beast". Unless you're talking about his running game. He's just a guy who has been jerked around a whole lot because of his own stupid decision a long time ago that he never thought would be leaked publicly.

Maybe he feels pretty vulnerable right now (and let's be honest...he's not exactly a Nobel candidate here), and especially with the league preventing most communication between he and the team...the people who have his ear are people with ulterior motives. It doesn't help that he knows that the guy who wanted him out the most got promoted in the offseason. And right when he's at his most paranoid, Zygi requests his presence at a meeting and doesn't send his private jet down to do so. That's the kind of message that everyone in Adrian's camp will definitely pick up on.

You have an agent that seems to be playing this whole thing up along with a spouse that would love to have her husband work closer to home during the season. To keep an eye on him? To keep the family together? You can't even guess at that one. But it's clear that those two are substantial sources of discontent. It seems like it's in the best interests of his camp to twist Peterson around until he makes a decision that makes them feel like they won. However, I can't even see how any of them could walk away wealthier, because no matter how you look at it, Peterson with the Vikings makes more money than he does without the Vikings. The league doesn't throw that kind of money at running backs anymore, especially ones that are near the end of their prime years.

After all is said and done, yeah, I'm all on board with him being shipped out of town. He was a centerpiece in an offense that was somewhat outdated in the NFL back when he was signed to a monster contract that is usually only reserved for top 5 franchise quarterbacks. What he brings to the table now, after multiple knee surgeries, isn't worth what his contract is paying him. His actions led to the organization being publicly humiliated. Zygi getting shade thrown at him because he tried to be responsive to the problem and ended up being seen as botching it...then losing endorsements during a time when he's trying to get the state (even the ones who are still raw about the taxes) excited for his new stadium. And even after that, the organization tried to make sure he still got paid for staying at home to send a message that they take care of their own. I don't think as many people as Viking fans would think would have been surprised if the organization had released him during the past season.

I wouldn't say he should feel indebted to them or anything, but he keeps ignoring some very real facts based in numbers of dollars in favor of perceived negative sentiment. It's hard to ignore perceived disrespect, especially when the people around you point it out repeatedly to you. Honestly, Adrian Peterson could just opt to retire early if he was so tired of it. Players are doing that now, with chronic knee problems, concussions...it's not as shocking as it used to be. But he hasn't, yet, so my feeling is that the real problem here is his agent.

Pondering Her Percy wrote:It's getting to the point where I don't even like AP anymore and I can't believe it's gotten to that point. TRADE HIM RICK!! It's better for the future of this team

I feel the same way. Just a few weeks ago I was good with everything and wanted him to remain with us. Now? I'd like to start a new chapter without him. My opinion of him has dropped so low that I'd really just like to move on.

PurpleMustReign wrote: But if he really, honestly and truly wanted out, he should be restructuring his contract. There are almost no teams in the NFL that can take that on right now,especially contending teams. This whole thing just doesn't add up.

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Well if he restructures now then the Vikings would almost certainly keep him. It seems more likely to me he gets traded and then works out a deal with the other team. Most trades are subject to certain contingencies (i.e. passing a physical) so I think there would be enough time to do a trade/restructure before a trade is finalized but I'm not totally up to speed on the process.

It's a little muddled on what exactly is his motive (and his agents). Does he want out, does he want his money guaranteed, is he stiff arming the Vikings to not restructure? It's hard to tell right now other than there's clearly something going on. I still think he plays next year under his current contract but a trade now wouldn't shock me as much as it would have, say, a month ago.

It's a little muddled on what exactly is his motive (and his agents). Does he want out, does he want his money guaranteed, is he stiff arming the Vikings to not restructure? It's hard to tell right now other than there's clearly something going on.

Everything points to him simply not wanting to play for the Vikings. No mention of money. Just him, and his wife, not wanting anything to do with the team anymore. Maybe something happened behind the scenes. We keep hearing about some front office members and the commissioners exempt list. Maybe there was more involved from the Vikings in the whole thing that the media hasn't gotten a hold of?

If it was simply an issue of money...doesn't it seem like his agent would meet with the Vikings, if only to find out if they could rework the team somehow to get more guaranteed or *anything*? The meeting between AD and the owners, and now the agent not willing to meet with the GM. He wants out. Period.

Demi wrote: Everything points to him simply not wanting to play for the Vikings. No mention of money. Just him, and his wife, not wanting anything to do with the team anymore. Maybe something happened behind the scenes. We keep hearing about some front office members and the commissioners exempt list. Maybe there was more involved from the Vikings in the whole thing that the media hasn't gotten a hold of?

If it was simply an issue of money...doesn't it seem like his agent would meet with the Vikings, if only to find out if they could rework the team somehow to get more guaranteed or *anything*? The meeting between AD and the owners, and now the agent not willing to meet with the GM. He wants out. Period.

I am not worried about his agent not meeting with the Vikings in AZ. Maybe he has a massage scheduled. If Peterson wants out, his agent will have to meet with them. It's that simple. AP can say, "Hey, you need to see what they want." It is that simple. I think nothing happens until April 15th. Once that date comes and goes things should start happening. It will be interesting to see just what the NFL does at that time.

Raptorman wrote:If Peterson wants out, his agent will have to meet with them. It's that simple. AP can say, "Hey, you need to see what they want." It is that simple.

I KNOW.. there are so many things here, and I think many of us, myself included, have pieced everything together based on "reports" and not facts. I believe his dad when he says AD hasn't demanded or requested a trade. I also believe tht AD wants more guaranteed money and that is fine, after all, we all do. I believe that Spielman may be sending out feelers about trades, but I don't believe that he will trade him for anything less than a 1st and 5th, or a 2nd and a player (like Patrick Peterson, but who knows if ARZ will be willing to part with him or anyone else on their roster).
My biggest problem here is the #### agent. I have never heard of such an immature series of events by someone who is over the age of 18. The guy is a Grade A #### and apparently wants everyone to know it. Think about it: Adrian pays this guy good money to make his decisions for him and protect him, he doesn't have much choice but to do what he says. If I were the owners, I would try to ban certain agents who don't act like their age because it makes the players look bad.
There are a lot of missing or inconsistent pieces with this story. Based on quotes from Spielman and others, they want him to be here. Based on his father, AD wants to be here, or at least doesn't have that big of an issue being here. But the agent is being such a yeast-infected vagina that it is making everyone hate AD and hate this situation.

And no, I am not an Adrian Peterson apologist. There are just too many open holes here for me to make sense of the story.

Edit: Why on earth is the thing that helps women clean themselves a censored word? This isn't a religious forum for God's sake.

What I find puzzling is that AD says he felt wasn't supported enough through the legal process and that he felt ambushed by the exemption list thing.
Then he turns around and says that he has enough trust in the FO and they have enough respect for him not to make him stay if he wants to go elsewhere.
He's essentially saying he was stabbed in the back despite the fact they respect him too much to ever do something like that to him.

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Pretty mch everything being reported about this smells like BS sprinkled generously with malignant egophrenia.
Whatever the case may be with timing and things that need to happen before this can be resolved, the media and tweets around it all are pushing it to a point where it's getting on the fans last nerve. Fans here anyway. Feels to me like he is losing mass credibility with the fan base due to his tight lipped entitled stance on all this.
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Hard to have much sympathy for anyone when the facts aren't on the table.

Raptorman wrote: I am not worried about his agent not meeting with the Vikings in AZ. Maybe he has a massage scheduled. If Peterson wants out, his agent will have to meet with them. It's that simple. AP can say, "Hey, you need to see what they want." It is that simple. I think nothing happens until April 15th. Once that date comes and goes things should start happening. It will be interesting to see just what the NFL does at that time.

I don't think that Peterson will file for reinstatement on April 15th. That date was part of Goodell's ruling that was completely vacated by Judge Doty in the NFLPA's lawsuit against the league.

Mothman wrote:It was hardly a vacation and he didn't get paid for 15 games either, but the trouble he found himself in was self-inflicted.

It was a 15-game vacation from his job, which is playing football for the Minnesota Vikings, and he got paid millions of dollars. And he hurt the team because of his actions. He owes the Vikings, not the other way around. Screw him.

Agents act at the behest of their clients. Just saying.


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