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The 9th-ranked WR in the entire NFL!Jordysghost wrote:And who do you guys have? At all?
Again, I don't think having no depth at WR around him would improve his statistical production anyway, on the contrary, I think it would hurt it, but really, who do the Vikes have at WR?
Mothman wrote: Yep. It's Football 101. When the defense overcommits to stopping the run, punish them with the pass and force them out of that strategy. In turn, that opens up the run.
I was parroting others. I along with the live announcers and several post game "experts" repeatedly pointed out missed holes. I think he just finally cant cover up his career of poor vision with freakish strength and speed.Jordysghost wrote:AP faces stacked boxes because you cant PASS, clearly a good passing game would adequately make use of the defensive looks AD commands, and if they stop stacking the box in an attempt to give help against the pass, AD will have only 6 guys in the box to run against.
You even admit there are no holes and that AD commands stacked boxes so idk why you want to replace him. Just get a passing game.
mansquatch wrote:Don't forget guys, the Vikings are 23rd in total yards while the Packers are 24th. Also we had 18% more passing yardage than the Packers. Therefore Shaun Hill is better than Aaron Rogers.
You didn't follow the link I posted, did you, Scott?Norv Zimmer wrote:17th Jim, Stop smoking so early in the morning.
I was referring to Diggs, not the Vikings WR corps as a whole. He's ranked 9th in the NFL after (most) of week 1.Um what? AP's weakness is not vision, it is impatience and sometimes he likes to dance to try find a hole that isn't always there. (or usually there.) That being said, he did sort of lead the league in rushing again last year with what was probably the worst Vikings OL since 2011 and a pedestrian passing attack. That is a heck of a lot of equity to just give up on him after one bad game.IrishViking wrote: I was parroting others. I along with the live announcers and several post game "experts" repeatedly pointed out missed holes. I think he just finally cant cover up his career of poor vision with freakish strength and speed.
I realized that after I posted. I was thinking team as a whole. That doesn't take away that you have a smoking problem... you taking wake and bake to a whole new level!Mothman wrote: You didn't follow the link I posted, did you, Scott?
mansquatch wrote: Um what? AP's weakness is not vision, it is impatience and sometimes he likes to dance to try find a hole that isn't always there. (or usually there.) That being said, he did sort of lead the league in rushing again last year with what was probably the worst Vikings OL since 2011 and a pedestrian passing attack. That is a heck of a lot of equity to just give up on him after one bad game.
They did that for the majority of the 2014 season.IrishViking wrote:This is what I am talking about. Mickinnon and Asiata are now empirically doing more with less than AP gets. You may very well be right about all of the excuses for AP but why not... you know... actually check? Test it.
Wait for him actually reach that cliff, don't throw him off it when he can still play at a high level!If the sample size is too small increase it. I don't like combining thread talks but Jim you are constantly lamenting not getting to see Patterson on the field and praise what little we do get to see as warranting more looks. I feel that asiata and mckinnon are doing the same thing. I get that AP has an obvious track record. But so does RBs hitting a cliff at 31...
He didn't show many signs of it last year so I think it's WAY too soon to reach that conclusion. Let's see if they can actually put a decent passing game in place for once and if they do, we'll see if that helps open things up for Peterson.Just to add. I am well aware that at some point this season AP will have a monster game and It will be suggested I eat crow and the "Feast or famine" or "thats why you get him his touches" will come pouring out. I just think that AP has hit that cliff that everyone believed without proof he was gonna magically fly off of...
Your hyperbolic post isn't even accurate, Rodgers stats absolutely destroyed Hill's. Aside from that, the Vikes D hasn't shown nearly the pedigree that Rodgers has to make this even a remotely comparable thing. Im not even understanding completely, the Packers O played undoubtedly better then the Vikes did this most recent game, running and passing.mansquatch wrote:Don't forget guys, the Vikings are 23rd in total yards while the Packers are 24th. Also we had 18% more passing yardage than the Packers. Therefore Shaun Hill is better than Aaron Rogers. Because we are like statistically similar, even better, and stuff.
