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Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:57 pm
by Texas Vike
Well, we OWN the 7th round.... so there's that. :lol:

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:57 pm
by CbusVikesFan
Mothman wrote:
It sure looks like he enjoys it too much and I'm beginning to wonder if other GMs see him as an "easy mark", a GM who will rarely say no if they want to move up to the Vikings spot.
Somebody wake me up when Rick has a complete draft. He started out so good and then started hitting the pipe.

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:59 pm
by jackal
Bucky is 6'7 and can jump with body control ....

I hope we use him the right way

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 3:59 pm
by Mothman
dead_poet wrote:I don't know. He said they made/received 20-30 calls yesterday. Obviously didn't take a lot from those. And if you look at the trade chart he usually gets really good return so I think he knows how to pass on weak deals. It'd be fun to see over the years his success rate vs. staying put.
I didn't literally mean he takes every offer he gets.

I don't think he typically gets a particularly good return, trade chart or not. Frankly, I'd like to see that chart tossed out the window. I think it's helped create a perception of the draft that's overly abstract.

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:00 pm
by fiestavike
S197 wrote: Mayock said GMs have their "fingerprints" where some guys never move while others bounce around. So he's probably known as a guy to call if you want to move, keep in mind he also moved up, twice, so he's playing the phones too.

The Patriots are notorious for compiling picks, I don't think it's a bad strategy to emulate.
The graphic NFL network put up of the Patriots offense in the superbowl with a bunch of 4th-7th rounders and undrafted players tells the tale. I think they had 1 first rounder on the field. NE is all about specialization, which is where the Vikings need to go too at this point.

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:02 pm
by Mothman
S197 wrote: Mayock said GMs have their "fingerprints" where some guys never move while others bounce around. So he's probably known as a guy to call if you want to move, keep in mind he also moved up, twice, so he's playing the phones too.

The Patriots are notorious for compiling picks, I don't think it's a bad strategy to emulate.
It never is with Rick Spielman... the man is triple-coated in the finest teflon.

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:03 pm
by fiestavike
jackal wrote:Bucky is 6'7 and can jump with body control ....

I hope we use him the right way
Red Zone threat. Put an unbalanced formation on the field, Hodges on the weak side. Always have an easy audible to a fade toward Hodges if you like the matchup. Let Bradford make these decisions before the snap. Make the game easy on him.

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:03 pm
by Norv Zimmer
I really don't understand trading back so much to get all these seventh round picks. It seems like this team doesn't need so many developmental players it needs quality players that will contribute.

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:04 pm
by 808vikingsfan
Kaaya still available?

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:08 pm
by ocampo82
808vikingsfan wrote:Kaaya still available?
yup

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:08 pm
by Mothman
Texas Vike wrote:Well, we OWN the 7th round.... so there's that. :lol:

:lol:

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:08 pm
by YikesVikes
S197 wrote: Mayock said GMs have their "fingerprints" where some guys never move while others bounce around. So he's probably known as a guy to call if you want to move, keep in mind he also moved up, twice, so he's playing the phones too.

The Patriots are notorious for compiling picks, I don't think it's a bad strategy to emulate.
Pats amassed quality picks. Also they have really dial the back that strategy in recent years

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:09 pm
by S197
Norv Zimmer wrote:I really don't understand trading back so much to get all these seventh round picks. It seems like this team doesn't need so many developmental players it needs quality players that will contribute.
Some of it may also be cap management. Bradford, Rhodes, and Barr are going to need new contracts next year. Instead of bringing in one guy in the 3rd or 4th you bring in 3 or 4 bodies and hope one works out and at a significant savings.

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:12 pm
by ocampo82
S197 wrote: Some of it may also be cap management. Bradford, Rhodes, and Barr are going to need new contracts next year. Instead of bringing in one guy in the 3rd or 4th you bring in 3 or 4 bodies and hope one works out and at a significant savings.

Barr needs to have a good season to justify a contract worth worrying about, but I agree with your point :thumbsup:

Re: 2017 draft thread

Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 4:13 pm
by S197
YikesVikes wrote:
Pats amassed quality picks. Also they have really dial the back that strategy in recent years
No, they amassed 4th to 7th rounders as fiesta pointed out. They dialed it back because they lost picks lately due to the Brady thing. They didn't have a pick until the 3rd round I think.