Dude, redzone opportunities are not just gimme touchdowns... Remember the Chief's game ? Alex Smith wound up in the redzone twice...... 2 picks. Remember the last decade of Vikings football (excluding '09)??DKSweets wrote:Those opportunities can't be overstated, either. Teddy was given some prime field position for a few of those scores, and you can't deny the fact that if they are equal talents at this point, the guy going against 2s and 3s SHOULD look better.
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Please just watch(04:39-05:18):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxXCuSyj18M&t=4m39s
This is a dog.
Compare that to this guy (00:46-01:01):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar3ioQywcAc&t=0m45s
"It's ok to hit the bag"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxXCuSyj18M&t=4m39s
This is a dog.
Compare that to this guy (00:46-01:01):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar3ioQywcAc&t=0m45s
"It's ok to hit the bag"
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But you still can't just judge who is better just by the stats alone. Yes, Bridgewater did capitalize on some good field position, but on the other hand Cassel never had the same opportunities. Plus Bridgewater got more playing time than Cassel so he should have more stats/points.28BreaksAnkles wrote: Dude, redzone opportunities are not just gimme touchdowns... Remember the Chief's game ? Alex Smith wound up in the redzone twice...... 2 picks. Remember the last decade of Vikings football (excluding '09)??
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Nobody said they were gimme TDs, but it's easier to score points when you're starting in the endzone against backups than it is when you're on your own 25 against starters.28BreaksAnkles wrote: Dude, redzone opportunities are not just gimme touchdowns... Remember the Chief's game ? Alex Smith wound up in the redzone twice...... 2 picks. Remember the last decade of Vikings football (excluding '09)??
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I think you meant "red zone," but I agree it is easier to score a touchdown when you start in the end zoneDKSweets wrote:Nobody said they were gimme TDs, but it's easier to score points when you're starting in the endzone against backups than it is when you're on your own 25 against starters.
I think your point is valid. Two of Bridgewater TD drives were like 10 yards in total length. Kudos to him for being opportunistic, but it's not like he had to engineer 5, 99 yard drives to get his TDs. That said, Bridgewater seems to be playing well enough that I'm not afraid of what would happen if Cassel would go out with an injury. Either they are both playing really good, or preseason has fooled us all and they will both be equally bad.
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It depends on which endzone...Just Me wrote:I think you meant "red zone," but I agree it is easier to score a touchdown when you start in the end zone
Well see!I think you point is valid. Two of Bridgewater TD drives were like 10 yards in total length. Kudos to him for being opportunistic, but it's not like he had to engineer 5, 99 yard drives to get his TDs. That said, Bridgewater seems to be playing well enough that I'm not afraid of what would happen if Cassel would go out with an injury. Either they are both playing really good, or preseason has fooled us all and they will both be equally bad.
Two of the most notable differences in the preseason stats for Bridgewater and Cassel are TD percentage and yards per attempt. Field position affects both but the differences are pretty substantial:
Bridgwater had a TD%: of 10.2 compared to Cassel's 5.1. Cassel has a yards-per-attempt average of 9.4, which is superb, while Bridgewater's is just 5.8.
I'm not attaching much significance to those numbers but they do pop out when comparing the stats.
If anybody is curious, Ponder's YPA number for the preseason was right in-between the other two: 7.3.
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Mothman wrote: It depends on which endzone...
I'm not sure I see anything surprising here. Bridgewater had more TDs than Cassel because Bridgewater usually had the "shorter field". Bridgewater had less yards per attempt, because...well...he usually had the "shorter field".Mothman wrote: Well see!
Two of the most notable differences in the preseason stats for Bridgewater and Cassel are TD percentage and yards per attempt. Field position affects both but the differences are pretty substantial:
Bridgwater had a TD%: of 10.2 compared to Cassel's 5.1. Cassel has a yards-per-attempt average of 9.4, which is superb, while Bridgewater's is just 5.8.
I'm not attaching much significance to those numbers but they do pop out when comparing the stats.
If anybody is curious, Ponder's YPA number for the preseason was right in-between the other two: 7.3.
Maybe I'm just looking at it too simplistically...
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Bridge should start, I'd be surprised if he didn't supplant Cassel in the season.
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I'm excited we actually had real completion for the QB spot. Cassel looked good. But looking at last year, I hope he can maintain it during the regular season.
Teddy was exactly what I wanted. So smooth in the pocket, great athlete, nice arm, and showed good accuracy. Really looking forward to see what both QBs can do with AD back there. Esp. with CP showing some good receiving skills. Ive never looked forward to a season so much, and that knowing they don't have much of a chance to even get to the playoffs.
Teddy was exactly what I wanted. So smooth in the pocket, great athlete, nice arm, and showed good accuracy. Really looking forward to see what both QBs can do with AD back there. Esp. with CP showing some good receiving skills. Ive never looked forward to a season so much, and that knowing they don't have much of a chance to even get to the playoffs.
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Perhaps but I mentioned that field position affected both stats for the same reasons you're talking about above so I don't disagree with you. In the end, we're probably only talking about the equivalent of one full game's worth of stats for each QB (I don't think Cassel even played a full 4 quarters worth of football this preseason did he?) so there's really not much to compare.Just Me wrote:I'm not sure I see anything surprising here. Bridgewater had more TDs than Cassel because Bridgewater usually had the "shorter field". Bridgewater had less yards per attempt, because...well...he usually had the "shorter field".
Maybe I'm just looking at it too simplistically...
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I am ashamed...can we just pretend that didn't happen?Just Me wrote: I think you meant "red zone," but I agree it is easier to score a touchdown when you start in the end zone
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Honestly the redzone is one place I felt we struggled for the last couple of years, as far as Peterson goes he was the one taking most of the scores in for us, Christian had a few times he looked good, but Teddy looked like a seasoned pro with those passes in the endzone, he made it look like it was easy and he had been there before. It cannot be over stated enough how difficult it is to score in the redzone.
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That's an area where I hope Norv's playcalling will really help the offense.Dirtyswabby wrote:Honestly the redzone is one place I felt we struggled for the last couple of years, as far as Peterson goes he was the one taking most of the scores in for us, Christian had a few times he looked good, but Teddy looked like a seasoned pro with those passes in the endzone, he made it look like it was easy and he had been there before. It cannot be over stated enough how difficult it is to score in the redzone.
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I agree with you mothman. Some of it has to do with play calling. But I don't think we should take anything away from Bridgewater he passes had the perfect amount of touch, starting defenses would have had issues preventing those touchdowns.
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Ha! I had to correct a typo in my post pointing out the typo in yours. No worries. "Let he who is without typos, cast the first moan."DKSweets wrote: I am ashamed...can we just pretend that didn't happen?
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Sorry to get technical here but a typo is the misspelling of a word. In this case using endzone instead of redzone would be considered more of a malapropism.Just Me wrote: Ha! I had to correct a typo in my post pointing out the typo in yours. No worries. "Let he who is without typos, cast the first moan."
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