Re: Teddy Bridgewater
Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2014 11:24 pm
Cris should just go ahead and get that H added to his name. It has annoyed me for years.
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@PFF -- Vikings rookie QB Teddy Bridgewater has an Accuracy Percentage of 80% on plays when Under Pressure this preseason.
Eh... I could do better.dead_poet wrote:Granted this is the preseason and with limited snaps...but this bodes well for his long-term potential and, in my mind, is one of the most critical areas an NFL quarterback must excel in order to be successful.
The major difference was that Matt Flynn was lousy through camp and the preseason. Wilson earned the job by outplaying Flynn, and while it's a tight battle, I'm not sure anyone could convincingly say teddy outplayed Cassel, because both were very impressive28BreaksAnkles wrote:I'm just not convinced he will be able to develop in a way that's best for him, in a way that will maximize this guy's tremendous potential- by sitting on the bench.... I think there is enough evidence that if a guy is ready to play, let him go out there and run with the big dogs.
I'm just saying, Pete Carroll made the tough call two years ago. In the midst of all the banter, between most of the talking heads and analysts, about Flynn being a promising starter, Seattle paying Flynn that Absurd contract based off of one game - the previous year, and general unkowns and unanswered questions about Russel Wilson (Size, mainly but there we're other concerns) - Pete Carroll came out and just surprised the entire world by starting this 3rd rounder who was too short and this and that, over a $20 million dollar quarterback.
2 Years later? Dynasty-Bound......
If you have Preseason Live do yourself a favor and watch Russel's Rookie preseason games vs Ted's.... START DROOLING.
If you don't have Preseason Live , check the boxscores...
JUST SAYING.... in 2 years when the Lombardy trophy Gets Hoisted up at the new Viking's stadium, It sure would be nice if Ted could have 2 full years of experience and opportunities to break down his OWN game-film and learn to get better that way, instead of breaking down what he would have done in Matt Cassel's shoes, and then going out and taking practice reps with the 2s EVERY DAY FOR A SEASON.
Our situation is EXTREMELY COMPARABLE (please convince me otherwise) to that of a young team under new head coach, Pete Carroll.
So why not us?
SKOL for the future!
TDT2MBW
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drafted cmp att pct yds avg td int 1st lng 20+ 40+ sk rating
R1 # 3 Blake Bortles JAC 32 51 62.7 521 10.2 2 0 21 57T 11 2 4 110.0
R1 # 22 Johnny Manziel CLE 30 59 50.8 296 5.0 2 0 16 27 2 0 6 76.7
R1 # 32 Teddy Bridgewater MIN 30 49 61.2 283 5.8 5 0 23 37 1 0 3 111.2
R2 # 36 Derek Carr OAK 30 45 66.7 326 7.2 4 1 16 38 5 0 2 108.2
R2 # 62 Jimmy Garoppolo N.E 46 79 58.2 618 7.8 5 1 29 53 7 1 3 99.0
R4 #120 Logan Thomas ARZ 22 40 55.0 207 5.2 1 2 12 23 2 0 6 57.0
R4 #135 Tom Savage HOU 19 26 73.1 133 5.1 1 1 4 31T 1 0 3 81.1
R5 #163 Aaron Murray K.C 10 20 50.0 120 6.0 1 1 4 43T 1 1 1 64.6
R5 #164 AJ McCarron CIN (has been on the PUP list with a bum shoulder)
R6 #178 Zach Mettenberger TEN 47 68 69.1 659 9.7 2 2 28 64T 8 1 7 97.6
R6 #183 David Fales CHI 18 31 58.1 214 6.9 1 2 10 41 3 1 2 63.1
R6 #194 Keith Wenning BAL 10 17 58.8 140 8.2 0 0 6 39 2 0 2 85.4
R6 #213 Tajh Boyd NYJ 8 17 47.1 98 5.8 1 0 4 42T 2 1 2 84.9
R6 #214 Garrett Gilbert STL 16 33 48.5 158 4.8 0 0 10 23 2 0 5 62.4
undraft Seth Lobato MIA 26 53 49.1 271 5.1 1 1 12 30 3 0 2 62.7
undraft Dustin Vaughan DAL 22 43 51.2 212 4.9 1 0 10 27 2 0 5 73.0
undraft Connor Shaw CLE 8 9 88.9 123 13.7 1 0 5 45T 3 1 1 155.8
undraft Stephen Morris JAC 16 25 64.0 120 4.8 0 1 5 20 1 0 1 58.8
undraft Logan Kilgore N.O 6 10 60.0 52 5.2 0 1 2 17 0 0 0 34.2
undraft Brendon Kay PIT 5 10 50.0 32 3.2 0 0 1 13 0 0 3 57.1
undraft Jeff Mathews ATL 1 3 33.3 18 6.0 0 0 0 18 0 0 0 54.9
undraft Chase Rettig G.B 1 3 33.3 10 3.3 0 0 1 10 0 0 2 43.8
Agreed. But, I think there's a little give-and-take here.. Russel also was not a 1st round draft pick with 10,000 yards in college.saint33 wrote:The major difference was that Matt Flynn was lousy through camp and the preseason. Wilson earned the job by outplaying Flynn, and while it's a tight battle, I'm not sure anyone could convincingly say teddy outplayed Cassel, because both were very impressive
Gosh Reign, nice post. This table alone....... Justifies AT LEAST the Touchdown Teddy part of TDT2MBW.Reignman wrote:Just some meaningless preseason stats of all the rookie QB's. 4 of the top 5 looking pretty good. Johnny Ponder not so much.
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drafted cmp att pct yds avg td int 1st lng 20+ 40+ sk rating R1 # 3 Blake Bortles JAC 32 51 62.7 521 10.2 2 0 21 57T 11 2 4 110.0 R1 # 22 Johnny Manziel CLE 30 59 50.8 296 5.0 2 0 16 27 2 0 6 76.7 R1 # 32 Teddy Bridgewater MIN 30 49 61.2 283 5.8 5 0 23 37 1 0 3 111.2 R2 # 36 Derek Carr OAK 30 45 66.7 326 7.2 4 1 16 38 5 0 2 108.2 R2 # 62 Jimmy Garoppolo N.E 46 79 58.2 618 7.8 5 1 29 53 7 1 3 99.0 R4 #120 Logan Thomas ARZ 22 40 55.0 207 5.2 1 2 12 23 2 0 6 57.0 R4 #135 Tom Savage HOU 19 26 73.1 133 5.1 1 1 4 31T 1 0 3 81.1 R5 #163 Aaron Murray K.C 10 20 50.0 120 6.0 1 1 4 43T 1 1 1 64.6 R5 #164 AJ McCarron CIN (has been on the PUP list with a bum shoulder) R6 #178 Zach Mettenberger TEN 47 68 69.1 659 9.7 2 2 28 64T 8 1 7 97.6 R6 #183 David Fales CHI 18 31 58.1 214 6.9 1 2 10 41 3 1 2 63.1 R6 #194 Keith Wenning BAL 10 17 58.8 140 8.2 0 0 6 39 2 0 2 85.4 R6 #213 Tajh Boyd NYJ 8 17 47.1 98 5.8 1 0 4 42T 2 1 2 84.9 R6 #214 Garrett Gilbert STL 16 33 48.5 158 4.8 0 0 10 23 2 0 5 62.4 undraft Seth Lobato MIA 26 53 49.1 271 5.1 1 1 12 30 3 0 2 62.7 undraft Dustin Vaughan DAL 22 43 51.2 212 4.9 1 0 10 27 2 0 5 73.0 undraft Connor Shaw CLE 8 9 88.9 123 13.7 1 0 5 45T 3 1 1 155.8 undraft Stephen Morris JAC 16 25 64.0 120 4.8 0 1 5 20 1 0 1 58.8 undraft Logan Kilgore N.O 6 10 60.0 52 5.2 0 1 2 17 0 0 0 34.2 undraft Brendon Kay PIT 5 10 50.0 32 3.2 0 0 1 13 0 0 3 57.1 undraft Jeff Mathews ATL 1 3 33.3 18 6.0 0 0 0 18 0 0 0 54.9 undraft Chase Rettig G.B 1 3 33.3 10 3.3 0 0 1 10 0 0 2 43.8
Except Matt Flynn wasn't as good as Russell in the preseason. Russell was making things happen and stood out. Right now, you can't say Bridgewater stands out all that much more than Cassel. Not to mention that when Pete made that decision, he knew Russell was backed by a then top 5 defense. The situations are definitely not as comparable as you make them seem. Gotta go beyond face value28BreaksAnkles wrote:I'm just not convinced he will be able to develop in a way that's best for him, in a way that will maximize this guy's tremendous potential- by sitting on the bench.... I think there is enough evidence that if a guy is ready to play, let him go out there and run with the big dogs.
I'm just saying, Pete Carroll made the tough call two years ago. In the midst of all the banter, between most of the talking heads and analysts, about Flynn being a promising starter, Seattle paying Flynn that Absurd contract based off of one game - the previous year, and general unkowns and unanswered questions about Russel Wilson (Size, mainly but there we're other concerns) - Pete Carroll came out and just surprised the entire world by starting this 3rd rounder who was too short and this and that, over a $20 million dollar quarterback.
2 Years later? Dynasty-Bound......
If you have Preseason Live do yourself a favor and watch Russel's Rookie preseason games vs Ted's.... START DROOLING.
If you don't have Preseason Live , check the boxscores...
JUST SAYING.... in 2 years when the Lombardy trophy Gets Hoisted up at the new Viking's stadium, It sure would be nice if Ted could have 2 full years of experience and opportunities to break down his OWN game-film and learn to get better that way, instead of breaking down what he would have done in Matt Cassel's shoes, and then going out and taking practice reps with the 2s EVERY DAY FOR A SEASON.
Our situation is EXTREMELY COMPARABLE (please convince me otherwise) to that of a young team under new head coach, Pete Carroll.
So why not us?
SKOL for the future!
TDT2MBW
"Johnny Ponder"Reignman wrote: 4 of the top 5 looking pretty good. Johnny Ponder not so much.
What more could he do? I thought the point of being a good quarterback was to score TD's? You can only work with the opportunities you're given. 5 TD's vs 2 TD's. Our team scored 47 points with Teddy at the helm in right over 6 full quarters of play.. Points win games, ultimately. He outscored him by quite a bit.. and in my opinion showed better ability in multiple areas over Matt (Such as % vs blitz..)PacificNorseWest wrote:Except Matt Flynn wasn't as good as Russell in the preseason. Russell was making things happen and stood out. Right now, you can't say Bridgewater stands out all that much more than Cassel. Not to mention that when Pete made that decision, he knew Russell was backed by a then top 5 defense. The situations are definitely not as comparable as you make them seem. Gotta go beyond face value
Those opportunities can't be overstated, either. Teddy was given some prime field position for a few of those scores, and you can't deny the fact that if they are equal talents at this point, the guy going against 2s and 3s SHOULD look better.28BreaksAnkles wrote: What more could he do? I thought the point of being a good quarterback was to score TD's? You can only work with the opportunities you're given. 5 TD's vs 2 TD's. Our team scored 47 points with Teddy at the helm in right over 6 full quarters of play.. Points win games, ultimately. He outscored him by quite a bit.. and in my opinion showed better ability in multiple areas over Matt (Such as % vs blitz..)
This can't just be overlooked.