The Teddy Bridgewater Thread

[Mothman]

I was trying to find that play but unsuccessful. Anyone remember what game that was? Thin line between a seemingly bad play and a great play.

It occurred against Atlanta:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-high ... d-zone-INT

[808vikingsfan]

It occurred against Atlanta:

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-high ... d-zone-INT

Thanks Jim! Not sure both plays are similar. In the ATL INT, it looks like it was the safety's responsibility to cover Rudolph since no one else was covering him. Maybe that's why he never bit on the look off or pump fake. I think if the ball was placed better, it would have been a TD.

[CbusVikesFan]

Week 17.
TEDDY TEDDY TEDDY

[chicagopurple]

My take on the term "Game Manager" was that a QB was limited in being a short to middle range passer who is REALLY reliable...ie accurate and conservative in his prim, quaint little short passing game. After this regular season, I don't see how Bridgewater is even considered to be a "Game Manager". He is so hesitant and unsure of himself that he fails to pull the trigger not just on long passes but frequently on short/middling routes. He is throwing ill-conceived dump offs that SHOULD be interceptions. He is taking sacks that are avoidable out of a fear of releasing the ball. He even has trouble handling hand offs to AP it seems! This week really made it very clear that he has NO deep game. When trying to throw past his limited range he has to use every ounce of strength he has and it becomes a crap shoot. If we win games it will be despite him, not because he is a great Game Manager......we either need a QB Guru to come in this off season and intensely retrain him or I think he will be a bust.

[dead_poet]

Merged the thread here. Trying to keep all Teddy-related things here.

[Purple bruise]

My take on the term "Game Manager" was that a QB was limited in being a short to middle range passer who is REALLY reliable...ie accurate and conservative in his prim, quaint little short passing game. After this regular season, I don't see how Bridgewater is even considered to be a "Game Manager". He is so hesitant and unsure of himself that he fails to pull the trigger not just on long passes but frequently on short/middling routes. He is throwing ill-conceived dump offs that SHOULD be interceptions. He is taking sacks that are avoidable out of a fear of releasing the ball. He even has trouble handling hand offs to AP it seems! This week really made it very clear that he has NO deep game. When trying to throw past his limited range he has to use every ounce of strength he has and it becomes a crap shoot. If we win games it will be despite him, not because he is a great Game Manager......we either need a QB Guru to come in this off season and intensely retrain him or I think he will be a bust.

I guess you did not watch the previous 3 games He definitely had a bad day and freely admitted as much yesterday but does not deserve the "rant" that will continue over and over and over
A young, 2nd year QB, in his first play-off game, playing in a cold hostile stadium with the freak Matthew baring down on him nearly every play, hmmmm guess that would be difficult to say the least. ....just my opinion. But continue on.

[Mothman]

Bridgewater's final regular season stats for 2015:

Passing:
292 of 447 for 3,231 yards
14 TDs
9 INTs
44 sacks for -307 yards
88.7 passer rating
65.3% completion percentage
7.2 yard average per attempt

Rushing:
44 carries for 192 yards
4.4 yards per carry average
3 TDs
8 fumbles, 3 lost

[vikesfan87]

Bridgewater's final regular season stats for 2015:

Passing:
292 of 447 for 3,231 yards
14 TDs
9 INTs
44 sacks for -307 yards
88.7 passer rating
65.3% completion percentage
7.2 yard average per attempt

Rushing:
44 carries for 192 yards
4.4 yards per carry average
3 TDs
8 fumbles, 3 lost

These statistics (if taken by themselves) certainly spell out game manager. Also, eerily similar (again if taken by themselves) to the stat lines that Troy Aikman put up under Norv Turner.

[J. Kapp 11]

I like Teddy. I really do, and I want him to succeed.

But man, that was a horror show against Green Bay. That overthrow to McKinnon ... cripes, I could have made that throw. Carr would've hit that throw 10 times out of 10. A.J. McCarron would've hit that throw. Bortles would've hit that throw. They're all second-year guys. The lefty throw is barely worth mentioning. And once again, he held the ball too long.

The kid is very likable and seems to be someone his teammates want to follow. But he's got to step it up, especially against better opposition. There can be no more "young quarterback" excuses. He's had 29 starts, and we're now in the playoffs against a pass rush that makes Green Bay's look like a Pop Warner team. It's time to start hitting guys downfield who are wide open, and it's time to start trusting receivers to make plays on contested passes. This is the NFL. "Open" doesn't mean nobody within five yards.

Again, I'm rooting for this kid. But he's got to play better. We're on the verge of becoming an elite defense, we can run the ball, and we have tons of speed at the wide receiver position. The future is bright, but only if Teddy steps up his game on a consistent basis.

[chicagopurple]

I just dont see him managing much lately. I see a guy who just prays that everyone around him does a good job so he doesnt need to step up to the spotlight or get much notice. He is definitely NOT acting like the field general and assuming command. The Ol sucks, that is a given, but it has been that way all year and he hasnt evolved, hasnt improved in any way. At best he has just tread water. Seattle, Carolina, AZ, all have much better defense then GB. GB wasnt some acid test of defensive excellence. That is yet to come.

[dead_poet]

I just dont see him managing much lately. I see a guy who just prays that everyone around him does a good job so he doesnt need to step up to the spotlight or get much notice. He is definitely NOT acting like the field general and assuming command. The Ol sucks, that is a given, but it has been that way all year and he hasnt evolved, hasnt improved in any way. At best he has just tread water. Seattle, Carolina, AZ, all have much better defense then GB. GB wasnt some acid test of defensive excellence. That is yet to come.

I'll give Teddy credit for performing well against the tough defenses of Arizona, Denver and Chicago (yes, Chicago had a good pass defense). He's been up and down all year and it's not like he hasn't had any good games. Unfortunately it feels like his downs are lower than his highs are, well, high. He needs to be more consistent(ly good). I think it's clear the offeseason priority is to upgrade his receiving weapons and especially protection. If Teddy can somehow come out and play a game like he did against Arizona's tough defense there's a chance. Granted, not much of one.

[Mothman]

I'll give Teddy credit for performing well against the tough defenses of Arizona, Denver and Chicago (yes, Chicago had a good pass defense). He's been up and down all year and it's not like he hasn't had any good games. Unfortunately it feels like his downs are lower than his highs are, well, high. He needs to be more consistent(ly good). I think it's clear the offeseason priority is to upgrade his receiving weapons and especially protection. If Teddy can somehow come out and play a game like he did against Arizona's tough defense there's a chance. Granted, not much of one.

My impression is he needs a defense to let him play to his strengths. In other words, when he can primarily be a "point guard", make quick decisions and throw a lot of short passes, he looks great (assuming his receivers make big plays after the catch). He even seems to do better throwing downfield when he can get his short game going. However, take away the effectiveness of that short game and he seems to flounder every time.

[vatusay]

I think zimmer needs to give him some downers before the game. He just seems too excited to start these big games. Hopefully he shook it off yesterday and will be more calm in the pocket against the defense that said he was scared the last time they played.

I cant decide if I think Teddy can be the guy moving forward or not. He puts up stinkers then comes back with 300+ yards. Seems like his best games are those where they run plays that get the receivers crossing about 8-12 yards down the field and they do a lot of the damage with YAC. I don't get how Norv can call a game with routes that don't take long to develop, have success, then go back to the game-plan that requires protection, which the vikings don't have.

I wish he could have hit McKinnon and Pruitt on the deep balls. Another piece of evidence that he gets too "excited" in these big spots.

Offensive line is terrible. (I feel like Khalil actually does not care out there) Even when he has time his head is telling him he doesn't because its what he has grown accustomed to. I hate seeing him afraid of ghost pressure.

Would love to see him out of more shotgun sets. I know, I know......

[The Breeze]

My concern is that his bad games are consistently against good teams, in spite of some good games against good ones.
He gets panicked and it shows up in overthrows and his leaving the pocket too early. He looked scared again last night. I know there are protection issues....but they only attempted 19 passes. Rudolphf wasn't targeted once. Some might scoff at Kapp saying he could've hit McKInnon, hell I was saying the same thing to myself. He was 5yds open and Teddy had a clean pocket.
Why was there not even one attempt at a screen play to someone? It was the continual ramming of AD into a defense that understands how to stop him, as Collingsworth pointed out several times. Why was there no play action until practically the 2nd half? Norv's calls made it look as if he thinks he has to lure the Packers D up to the line and force themto focus on AD. They've been singularly focused on stopping him for about 6 years now...it's no secret.
Just watching how the Packers used a no huddle and short passing game in the 3rd qtr to get Rogers going with is receivers makes me wonder what planet Turner lives on sometimes. Most often his solution for aggressie D's is to mute his offense's potential by going max protect. Not that that doesn't work at times....but the Viking offense has scored a total of 13pts in 2 games against a team they are very familar with. I don't think TB or the line is totally at fault....but they bear a large portion of the responsibiity.
Rogerd got sacked 5-6 times, their run game was meh and his line is trashed right now...but Mcarthy found ways to help him out in the 2nd half.
I just see a lot of issues with this offense that have yet to be resolved since the Chicago and NY blowouts. AZ is trumpeted as a game on the positive side for the offense....they scored 20, I'm not so sure. The glaring issues brought up last night will only be magnified against Seattle. The Vikings cannot change personnel...Norv has to find some way to work with what he has other than handing the ball to AD.

[purpletinted66]

He needs better pocket awareness, i.e. blitz detection

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