JJM out - ankle inury

[VikingLord]

JJM's press conference he said he's not 100% and I do believe KOC said he wouldn't play until he's 100%. Wentz certainly isn't 100% either.
JJ McCarthy on his ankle: “It's getting there. I wouldn't say it's 100 percent. ... We've got to be smart and understand there's a lot of things that go on. I'm just going to do what I'm told and try to get better”

Does the above make any sense? Sounds like he was told when asked say this.

Not sure it makes sense but it is worrying that McCarthy can't stay on the field. Hard to evaluate his potential or for him to show progression if he can't play due to injury.

[CharVike]

I just read that Pro Football Focus has Ingram rated as the #1 overall guard in the NFL right now. I'm not sure how they arrive at those rankings but based on what we saw out of him when he was with the Vikings that was an eye-opener as he was repeatedly one of the worst guards as ranked by the same.

I am not sure what PFF is seeing, but nothing with Ed has changed:

I saw that play. Ingram just got out of the way and let the DT have a free run at the QB. Maybe PFF just thought to ignore it instead of including it in their grade. Like it didn't happen.

[VikingLord]

I saw that play. Ingram just got out of the way and let the DT have a free run at the QB. Maybe PFF just thought to ignore it instead of including it in their grade. Like it didn't happen.

It's one play. Granted, it is one absolutely terrible play, but the grade reflects overall play which apparently has been pretty good. PFF doesn't benefit from misrepresenting or favoring the play of any particular player.

[CharVike]

I saw that play. Ingram just got out of the way and let the DT have a free run at the QB. Maybe PFF just thought to ignore it instead of including it in their grade. Like it didn't happen.

It's one play. Granted, it is one absolutely terrible play, but the grade reflects overall play which apparently has been pretty good. PFF doesn't benefit from misrepresenting or favoring the play of any particular player.

That's true. He'll get a new contract for next season. That will give the true story. If he's good he will be paid good.

[CharVike]

Drake Maye has turned in a very good season so far after his growth year. For some he's taken the lead of the 2024 class. Darnold is averaging 9.6 yards per attempt. That's what I like to see. Him and Lamar are the only 2 above 9. Not bad for an average of 33 million a year. Mayfield is another bargain. Another guy who took more than 2 years to find his game. It is possible. The lame Browns dumped him along with the lame Panthers who also dumped Sammy. Not exactly the smartest teams out there.

[VikingsFan12345]

Drake Maye has turned in a very good season so far after his growth year. For some he's taken the lead of the 2024 class. Darnold is averaging 9.6 yards per attempt. That's what I like to see. Him and Lamar are the only 2 above 9. Not bad for an average of 33 million a year. Mayfield is another bargain. Another guy who took more than 2 years to find his game. It is possible. The lame Browns dumped him along with the lame Panthers who also dumped Sammy. Not exactly the smartest teams out there.

Browns are the dumbest franchise in the NFL bar none, no other team comes close to it

Keeping Hue after going 0-16
Dumping Baker after Baker lead the Browns to their first playoff appearance since 2002 and first playoff win since 1994

And lots more other dumb decisions

[StumpHunter]

I saw that play. Ingram just got out of the way and let the DT have a free run at the QB. Maybe PFF just thought to ignore it instead of including it in their grade. Like it didn't happen.

It's one play. Granted, it is one absolutely terrible play, but the grade reflects overall play which apparently has been pretty good. PFF doesn't benefit from misrepresenting or favoring the play of any particular player.

That is a game, possibly season changing play if it allows the QB to get hurt or causes a fumble. Ingram had 2 more game changing plays last night with two penalties, and is quickly dropping in PFF grade after a couple of good games had the grade inflated.

You can't have your RG making plays like that.

Also, PFF did in fact ignore that play when factoring in Ingram's play, with no sack given up against TN. Since he didn't block the guy, that kind of makes sense?

[VikingLord]

It's one play. Granted, it is one absolutely terrible play, but the grade reflects overall play which apparently has been pretty good. PFF doesn't benefit from misrepresenting or favoring the play of any particular player.

That is a game, possibly season changing play if it allows the QB to get hurt or causes a fumble. Ingram had 2 more game changing plays last night with two penalties, and is quickly dropping in PFF grade after a couple of good games had the grade inflated.

You can't have your RG making plays like that.

Also, PFF did in fact ignore that play when factoring in Ingram's play, with no sack given up against TN. Since he didn't block the guy, that kind of makes sense?

I'm not trying to defend PFF or justify (or even explain) the grade they gave Ingram as I haven't watched him play at all this year. I just noted where PFF had him graded.

Regardless of how he plays for the Texans, when he was with the Vikings he was far from consistent and mostly a liability, so I think it was very reasonable for the Vikings to move on from him.

[CharVike]

That is a game, possibly season changing play if it allows the QB to get hurt or causes a fumble. Ingram had 2 more game changing plays last night with two penalties, and is quickly dropping in PFF grade after a couple of good games had the grade inflated.

You can't have your RG making plays like that.

Also, PFF did in fact ignore that play when factoring in Ingram's play, with no sack given up against TN. Since he didn't block the guy, that kind of makes sense?

I'm not trying to defend PFF or justify (or even explain) the grade they gave Ingram as I haven't watched him play at all this year. I just noted where PFF had him graded.

Regardless of how he plays for the Texans, when he was with the Vikings he was far from consistent and mostly a liability, so I think it was very reasonable for the Vikings to move on from him.

I tuned that game in for a little bit just to watch Darnold. His second TD throw was a thing of beauty. Rusher coming at him and he threw a thread the needle pass for a TD. We don't have a guy on our roster that can do that. I also checked out Ingram on replays and most of the time he was on the ground. Texans OL can't hold the point and gets push backwards. Stroud will have a tough time with that.