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Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:55 pm**

wow this is interesting. It sounds like the Vikings are talking to Orlando Brown. Rumors of a Barr-Brown trade??? That would be a shocker.

If this happens it would indicate that they either think Ezra isn't ready or maybe they really do prefer him at OG.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21802811 ... -look-like

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:18 pm**

VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:55 pm wow this is interesting. It sounds like the Vikings are talking to Orlando Brown. Rumors of a Barr-Brown trade??? That would be a shocker.

If this happens it would indicate that they either think Ezra isn't ready or maybe they really do prefer him at OG.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21802811 ... -look-like

And then there's this below from SB Nation a short time ago. Hope they don't trade Thielin!

One possible scenario proposed by staff members of Baltimore Beatdown would be the following: Minnesota swaps first-round picks with Baltimore, giving their No. 14 overall pick to the Ravens for their No. 27 overall pick, as well as packaging veteran WR Adam Thielen and another mid-round pick for Brown Jr.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:53 pm**

Spot & Stalk Vike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:18 pm
VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:55 pm wow this is interesting. It sounds like the Vikings are talking to Orlando Brown. Rumors of a Barr-Brown trade??? That would be a shocker.

If this happens it would indicate that they either think Ezra isn't ready or maybe they really do prefer him at OG.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21802811 ... -look-like
And then there's this below from SB Nation a short time ago. Hope they don't trade Thielin!

One possible scenario proposed by staff members of Baltimore Beatdown would be the following: Minnesota swaps first-round picks with Baltimore, giving their No. 14 overall pick to the Ravens for their No. 27 overall pick, as well as packaging veteran WR Adam Thielen and another mid-round pick for Brown Jr.

wow. I would hate to lose Thielen but it would be good for him to go to a team with a chance to win something while he is still near the top of his game. And it would free up a lot of $$ and make the team younger. But sheesh.....

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:57 pm**

VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:55 pm wow this is interesting. It sounds like the Vikings are talking to Orlando Brown. Rumors of a Barr-Brown trade??? That would be a shocker.

If this happens it would indicate that they either think Ezra isn't ready or maybe they really do prefer him at OG.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21802811 ... -look-like

I sure hope so so Pondering can finally shut up about Barr

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:58 pm**

Spot & Stalk Vike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:18 pm
VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:55 pm wow this is interesting. It sounds like the Vikings are talking to Orlando Brown. Rumors of a Barr-Brown trade??? That would be a shocker.

If this happens it would indicate that they either think Ezra isn't ready or maybe they really do prefer him at OG.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/21802811 ... -look-like
And then there's this below from SB Nation a short time ago. Hope they don't trade Thielin!

One possible scenario proposed by staff members of Baltimore Beatdown would be the following: Minnesota swaps first-round picks with Baltimore, giving their No. 14 overall pick to the Ravens for their No. 27 overall pick, as well as packaging veteran WR Adam Thielen and another mid-round pick for Brown Jr.

As a Sooner fan, I would love to have Brown!

Trading Theilen would be a bad idea, what if Vikings draft a rookie to play along with Jefferson and he becomes a bust and Vikings would have just Jefferson and no other good receivers

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:03 pm**

There's about four players I personally would never give up: Hunter, Harrison, Dalvin, and Thielen. They're the major corps of our veteran group and they're still ultra talented. I'd never give them up unless for a King's ransom.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:10 pm**

Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:03 pm There's about four players I personally would never give up: Hunter, Harrison, Dalvin, and Thielen. They're the major corps of our veteran group and they're still ultra talented. I'd never give them up unless for a King's ransom.

I agree except Harrison is on the decline though

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:43 pm**

Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:03 pm There's about four players I personally would never give up: Hunter, Harrison, Dalvin, and Thielen. They're the major corps of our veteran group and they're still ultra talented. I'd never give them up unless for a King's ransom.

Haha I was just thinking of this wildly stupid idea earlier today, boo me off the forum if you have to:
Crux of a deal:
DCook and AThielen to Jets for #2 pick.
MIN takes Zach Wilson at #2, Etienne at #14 and signs Kenny Golladay as FA.
Throw in whatever ancillary later round picks back and forth it takes to happen.

Two offensive players in round one only happens if Zimmer literally cannot be found the day of the draft, I know.

It's not that I don't have love for those guys, but this has become a game of "get the best, lowest-priced guys you can and hope to heck your starting QB is on his initial deal" and mold a SB team. SEA had it right with Wilson's early years. I just don't see any way paying QB's 25% or more of team cap is a sustainable formula. You have to keep on trading the guys who are making or are on the cusp of making obscene dollars. I guarantee you that is one solid reason SEA may not be 100% opposed to potentially losing Wilson at this point. And also one of the reasons their D has deteriorated over the past few years.

I guess my real point is that nowadays, I am mentally prepared to lose productive "favorite players" every 3-4 years. And unless a drafted QB ends up being top 3? top 5? in the league, trade or cut them before the obscene contract. Just make sure you have a Fitzpatrick/Dalton/etc. backup on the team.

I fully realize the above sounds about as far from Rick/Zim philosophy as is humanly possible.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:48 pm**

Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:03 pm There's about four players I personally would never give up: Hunter, Harrison, Dalvin, and Thielen. They're the major corps of our veteran group and they're still ultra talented. I'd never give them up unless for a King's ransom.

Just curious (not disagreeing with you)....are you saying that from a sentimental or a strategic point of view?
It wouldn’t shock me if they did jettison Thielen. Zimmer might view him as a complete luxury with a young phenom in JJ and a run 1st offense

I wonder if they talked to Baltimore about including Reiff in the trade at all

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:58 pm**

psjordan wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:43 pm
Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:03 pm There's about four players I personally would never give up: Hunter, Harrison, Dalvin, and Thielen. They're the major corps of our veteran group and they're still ultra talented. I'd never give them up unless for a King's ransom.
Haha I was just thinking of this wildly stupid idea earlier today, boo me off the forum if you have to:
Crux of a deal:
DCook and AThielen to Jets for #2 pick.
MIN takes Zach Wilson at #2, Etienne at #14 and signs Kenny Golladay as FA.
Throw in whatever ancillary later round picks back and forth it takes to happen.

Two offensive players in round one only happens if Zimmer literally cannot be found the day of the draft, I know.

It's not that I don't have love for those guys, but this has become a game of "get the best, lowest-priced guys you can and hope to heck your starting QB is on his initial deal" and mold a SB team. SEA had it right with Wilson's early years. I just don't see any way paying QB's 25% or more of team cap is a sustainable formula. You have to keep on trading the guys who are making or are on the cusp of making obscene dollars. I guarantee you that is one solid reason SEA may not be 100% opposed to potentially losing Wilson at this point. And also one of the reasons their D has deteriorated over the past few years.

I guess my real point is that nowadays, I am mentally prepared to lose productive "favorite players" every 3-4 years. And unless a drafted QB ends up being top 3? top 5? in the league, trade or cut them before the obscene contract. Just make sure you have a Fitzpatrick/Dalton/etc. backup on the team.

I fully realize the above sounds about as far from Rick/Zim philosophy as is humanly possible.

Agreed 100%!!!!!
If I were a GM I would never give the ridiculous QB salary. I would have a great “team” and just draft a Qb in 1st-3rd round every 2-3 years. Once their rookie contract is done- see ya

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:48 pm**

VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:48 pm
Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:03 pm There's about four players I personally would never give up: Hunter, Harrison, Dalvin, and Thielen. They're the major corps of our veteran group and they're still ultra talented. I'd never give them up unless for a King's ransom.
Just curious (not disagreeing with you)....are you saying that from a sentimental or a strategic point of view?
It wouldn’t shock me if they did jettison Thielen. Zimmer might view him as a complete luxury with a young phenom in JJ and a run 1st offense

I wonder if they talked to Baltimore about including Reiff in the trade at all

Mostly sentimental.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:00 pm**

VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:53 pm
Spot & Stalk Vike wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:18 pm

And then there's this below from SB Nation a short time ago. Hope they don't trade Thielin!

One possible scenario proposed by staff members of Baltimore Beatdown would be the following: Minnesota swaps first-round picks with Baltimore, giving their No. 14 overall pick to the Ravens for their No. 27 overall pick, as well as packaging veteran WR Adam Thielen and another mid-round pick for Brown Jr.
wow. I would hate to lose Thielen but it would be good for him to go to a team with a chance to win something while he is still near the top of his game. And it would free up a lot of $$ and make the team younger. But sheesh.....

I can confidently say right now, that Lamar Jackson will never be a SB winning QB. Remember where you heard it

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:02 pm**

Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:48 pm
VikingPaul73 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:48 pm

Just curious (not disagreeing with you)....are you saying that from a sentimental or a strategic point of view?
It wouldn’t shock me if they did jettison Thielen. Zimmer might view him as a complete luxury with a young phenom in JJ and a run 1st offense

I wonder if they talked to Baltimore about including Reiff in the trade at all
Mostly sentimental.

I agree 100% it would be really tough to lose those guys !!!!

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:02 pm**

The move to release Reiff tells me two things are certain:

- The Vikings are confident they will have their choice at tackle at #14 in the upcoming draft.
- The Vikings are confident that whoever they choose will be able to hit the ground running.

The move to release Reiff also makes a trade down from #14 less likely in my opinion. The Vikings are targeting either Slater, Vera-Tucker or Darrisaw with their first pick. If they do trade down it won't be far, but my guess is they're comfortable with any of those players in the 1st.

The only way I could see them departing from that plan would be if someone slips who absolutely should not have slipped. That would force alternative moves, like trying to get back into the first half of Round 2 to grab a guard like Wyatt Davis most likely and possibly shifting Cleveland out to LT. But I can only see that happening if someone is still on the board at #14 who shouldn't still be on the board.

I believe the Vikings like Cleveland at RG. Kubiak likes his ability to move and block in space and would prefer to keep him there. No, they're going to target one of those 3 tackles in Round 1 and probably look to shore up the LG position with one of their two 3rd rounders.

Posted: **Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:02 pm**

Rhodes Closed wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:03 pm There's about four players I personally would never give up: Hunter, Harrison, Dalvin, and Thielen. They're the major corps of our veteran group and they're still ultra talented. I'd never give them up unless for a King's ransom.

100% agree. Another one you’re missing is Kendricks. If he’s not the best MLB in the nfl I want to know who is. Kendricks is a lifer IMO and then obviously JJ. And I’d be in the minority here but I’d even go out on a limb and say O’Neill too

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