Again, playfully messing around with you own teammates, and making a spiteful gesture to opposing teams fans are quite different. The intent is the key here, as is the recipient of said gestures.[/quote]808vikingsfan wrote: So if Hawk pretended to moon his teammates for fun, that would be ok? What makes you think Moss' act wasn't done as a joke? That's how i viewed it. In my opinion, flipping the bird is a much more vulgar and tasteless jesture than pretending to moon. I believe one is saying "Kiss my b###" and the other is saying "###k you."
Again, thats your opinion (my guess is Buck's reaction had an influence ). My opinion, Both were done in jest.[/quote]
Of course Randy meant it as a joke, as in "Haha kiss my #### i just scored a td go #### yourself." kind of a joke. To OPPOSING FANS. Who the hell does that?
Hawk made a passing gesture at his buddies that he PERSONALLY knew. Teamates that he chatted, practiced, and hung out with. Moss went after OPPOSiNG FANS for the sole purpose of rubbing in a nearby victory.
Sometimes i jokingly call my girlfreind a fat ho (lol) and its ok because i know her, she knows me, and its ok because she knows i dont mean it and that we are on the same side. If someone else said that to her id want to knock them upside the dome. Is this really such a foreign concept to you?
Those were Hawk freinds and teammates, its very doubtful he meant it with any real measure of maliice or intent to offend. But even if he did, which is, again, highly doubtful, it still would have been to his own teammates and buddies. Not to opposing fans for the sole purpose of rubbing in a victory.
Moss? He scored a TD and decided to be the worst sportsman he could possibly be and rub Packers fans noses in his touchdown, and their teams deficit. This isnt a comparison. Jokingly giving a finger to your boys is one thing, rubbing opposing teams faces in your triumph? Classless, childish, and litterally the most unsportsmanlike thing you could ever do. But hey, thats our Randy!
Just so you know, i hate Joe Buck and Troy Aikman as commentators with the white hot intensity of 1000 suns. My opinion? Your making absolutely ridiculous, inane rationalizations to justify what was quite clearly one of the purest displays of being a terrible, terrible sportsman. This is about sportsmanship, of which Randy clearly had very little.
I know Randy was your hero, but that doesnt change the fact that his little gesture was a crash course on how to be a terrible, terrible, sportsman. 
I see your what you're saying, Cliff. What Moss did in that game was not a horrible, offensive act that might have permanently scarred the fragile psyche of a young child, it was simply unsportsmanlike conduct. However, just like it's wrong to stomp on an opposing player, poke him in the eye, cheat, etc. it's also wrong to do what Moss did. That's why there are penalties for all of the behavior listed above. 
You act as if vulgar gestures meant to delebritly rub the faces of opposing teams fans in your triumph are commonplace. They are not.
You know us fudgies. 
