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That Ponder is having a better year, that's what the hell the point is!!!

Raptorman wrote:Wait, I have to point this out so we have one more thing to argue about. Ponders QBR for week ten was 95. Higher than any other QB this past week!

What's it mean? Well nothing really. Just wanted to point it out. And his yearly QBR is 58.7. Higher than Brady, Locker, Newton, Dalton, Flacco, Bradford, A. Smith, Griffin, Roethlisberger, Fitzpatrick, Glennon, Schaub, Tannnehill, E. Manning, and C. Palmer. Wow, just wow. Do we have franchise QB on our hands?

          starts  cmp  att  pct  yards   avg  td int rating
Bradford       7  159  262  60.7  1687  6.44  14   4   90.9
Newton         9  170  271  62.7  1970  7.27  13   8   88.3
Roethlisberger 9  218  338  64.5  2534  7.50  13  10   87.6
Locker         7  111  183  60.7  1256  6.86   8   4   86.7
Dalton        10  239  383  62.4  2861  7.47  18  13   86.7
Griffin        9  205  337  60.8  2450  7.27  12   9   83.8
Glennon        5  123  204  60.3  1165  5.71   8   3   83.1
Brady          9  194  340  57.1  2256  6.64  13   6   82.7
A. Smith       9  188  315  59.7  1919  6.09   9   4   81.4
Tannehill      8  175  289  60.6  1977  6.84  11   9   80.8
Schaub         6  150  233  64.4  1552  6.66   8   9   78.8
Ponder         6  115  179  64.2  1246  6.96   5   7   77.6  <--
Flacco         9  204  346  59.0  2307  6.67  12  11   77.3
Fitzpatrick    2   63  111  56.8   790  7.12   4   4   76.0
Palmer         9  194  316  61.4  2154  6.82  12  15   74.5
E. Manning     9  183  329  55.6  2307  7.01  11  16   68.5

Further controversy erupted when the Total QBR system gave the Denver Broncos' Tim Tebow a higher rating than the Green Bay Packers' Aaron Rodgers in their respective Week 5 contests in 2011. Noting that Rodgers completed 26 of 39 passes for 396 yards and two touchdowns in a win over the Atlanta Falcons, while Tebow completed four of 10 passes for 79 yards and a touchdown, and six rushes for 38 yards and a touchdown, in a loss to the San Diego Chargers, Mike Florio of Profootballtalk.com wrote that he'll "continue to ignore ESPN’s Total QBR stat."[10] Rodgers himself was surprised: "I saw the [QBR stats] and chuckled to myself. I played a full game, [Tebow] played the half. He completed four passes, I completed 26. I think it incorporates QB runs as well ... The weighting of it doesn't make a whole lot of sense."[11] ESPN's Stats and Information Group explained that Tebow's higher rating was the result of him staging a partial comeback, taking no sacks, and having positive rushing yards and a rushing touchdown, among other factors.[12][13] However, Doug Farrar of Yahoo! Sports wrote that the QBR system lacks a minimum performance frequency floor that players must meet before they can be rated, and thus it essentially penalizes Rodgers because he played throughout the entire game, while rewarding Tebow because he came off the bench in the second half in an attempt to stage a comeback

From @ESPNStatsInfo: Christian Ponder has 5th-best QBR in the NFL from the shotgun in the last 3 weeks. Has looked more comfortable there.

Now, here's the rub: #Vikings have only handed the ball to Peterson 16 times in shotgun all year. Big change for him if they were to use it.

Another crazy Ponder shotgun stat: When he's in it, as you'd expect, he sees 7 or more in the box 22% of the time. Under center, it's 79%!

dead_poet wrote: Ben Goessling on Twitter

But what if the Vikings can figure out how to run effectively from the shotgun? Right now, they seem fairly predictable when they move Ponder out from under center, but might they have a solution for a couple of their problems by backing up and spreading out the defense? There are some members of the Vikings' organization who have grumbled about offensive coordinator Bill Musgrave's tendency to bunch players up on the line of scrimmage, effectively attracting more defenders and choking off space for Peterson. But in the past few weeks, Musgrave has started to open up their offense and trust Ponder to work from a formation he says he enjoys.

For the time being, that decision might provide a spark to the Vikings' offense, especially if they can make it work for both their MVP running back and their fledgling quarterback.

mondry wrote:lol, I wonder who's been saying that for quite a while now?!?!?

The Breeze wrote:
Be curious to see how those 16 runs did. I am one who thinks they should run him more out of passing formations...or at least have the option to audible into it once they get up to the LOS.

Reignman wrote:Stafford had 267 yards passing in the 2nd quarter alone today at Pittsburgh. Ponder has thrown for under 267 yards in 91% of his career starts, and hasn't thrown for 267 yards in a full game since week 6 last year at Washington (17 starts ago).