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It is all part of the game. Sad to see guys like Page, Cris Carter, Gary Zimmerman etc. etc. go on to other teams. But the wheels keep on turningThe Breeze wrote:@Bruise
lol
I meant only that it's a crappy deal the way this has all gone down and affected the entire fan base. All the butthurt, crying in beers and rending of purple jerseys.
Why do things have to change?
My only attatchment to AD is watching the big runs he makes so consistently.Purple bruise wrote: It is all part of the game. Sad to see guys like Page, Cris Carter, Gary Zimmerman etc. etc. go on to other teams. But the wheels keep on turning
Or how about another ending. The Vikes play which ever team he is with and he reverts back to his "fumbleitis" and the Vikes win!!!The Breeze wrote: My only attatchment to AD is watching the big runs he makes so consistently.
If McKinnon or someone else comes in and generates 1500 or so yards from scrimmage, I'll not look back in resentment.
I wil have an issue if he does get traded in the NFC and some cruel twist of fate allows him to run over the Vikes in a playoff matchup. That would stand as a Purple Drank event.
If you can crunch that down into a tweet with a clever hashtag it will be much more believable....Mothman wrote:I have absolutely no idea what to expect but for the cynical and despondent among you, here's a logical take on the Wolfson report that "someone close to Peterson expects "news" to happen with him over the next couple of days":
As I've said before, if Peterson is going to remain a Viking it will likely involve a renegotiated deal of some sort so his agent and Rob Brzezinksi would need to iron out the details of such an agreement. One of several ways to "connect the dots" here is that, after a productive meeting with Zimmer and Spielman last week, Peterson flew to NY on Monday, met with the Wilfs, resolved some differences and now his agent and Robski are finalizing a new deal, which will be the news we hear in the next few days.
The timeline makes sense...
The Breeze wrote:@Bruise
Yeah...lets remain positive.
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If we're in the playoffs next year I'll be happy just so.
I'd take a playoff win against Dallas any day and any way.
The ultimate would be to keep AD, make the playoffs, and have him go for 180 and 3 tds in a win in Dallas.
VikingLord wrote:If I'm Spielman, I need a 1st and a 3rd to do any deal for AD. Minimum. If prospective trade partners balk at that based on his salary, then I find out what they're willing to part with and relay that back to AD's agent.
As far as the messiness of a holdout might be, I say so what? As long as the Vikings have done two things, that shouldn't be a problem for them:
1) Publicly state they support him and want him back
2) Publicly state they will honor his existing contract
Anyone looking at that from the outside should have no problem with the Vikings based on how they are treating AD. While that doesn't protect them from a distraction, it also makes it clear that AD is acting of his own volition.
Make no mistake - AD knows he doesn't have much leverage in this situation. That's why he flew to New York to meet with the Wilfs and the Wilfs didn't fly out to meet him or fly him in on a private jet. I think the sight of Spielman and Zimmer flying down to meet AD at his home is already a couple cans short of a sixpack.
So if AD wants a trade, the Vikings (not AD) dictate the terms. AD is way more valuable than a 4th round pick. If I'm Spielman and somebody calls me with that offer, I not only hang up on him, I hang up on his mother, his friends, his dog, and burn his friggin' house down (sorry, just watched Unforgiven...).
For AD, it's a 1st and a 3rd. Trade partner can dictate compensation. AD wants out, he takes it or leaves it. If he stays and holds out, kiss the $$$, stats, and whatever is left of his reputation goodbye for as long as the Vikes have him under contract.
This sums it up for me.VikingLord wrote:If I'm Spielman, I need a 1st and a 3rd to do any deal for AD. Minimum. If prospective trade partners balk at that based on his salary, then I find out what they're willing to part with and relay that back to AD's agent.
As far as the messiness of a holdout might be, I say so what? As long as the Vikings have done two things, that shouldn't be a problem for them:
1) Publicly state they support him and want him back
2) Publicly state they will honor his existing contract
Anyone looking at that from the outside should have no problem with the Vikings based on how they are treating AD. While that doesn't protect them from a distraction, it also makes it clear that AD is acting of his own volition.
Make no mistake - AD knows he doesn't have much leverage in this situation. That's why he flew to New York to meet with the Wilfs and the Wilfs didn't fly out to meet him or fly him in on a private jet. I think the sight of Spielman and Zimmer flying down to meet AD at his home is already a couple cans short of a sixpack.
So if AD wants a trade, the Vikings (not AD) dictate the terms. AD is way more valuable than a 4th round pick. If I'm Spielman and somebody calls me with that offer, I not only hang up on him, I hang up on his mother, his friends, his dog, and burn his friggin' house down (sorry, just watched Unforgiven...).
For AD, it's a 1st and a 3rd. Trade partner can dictate compensation. AD wants out, he takes it or leaves it. If he stays and holds out, kiss the $$$, stats, and whatever is left of his reputation goodbye for as long as the Vikes have him under contract.
The Breeze wrote:If you can crunch that down into a tweet with a clever hashtag it will be much more believable....
It could fall through?Seriously though, If that were the case I'd consider it good news and something they could admit publicly.
What would be the downsid of saying that the sides are currently working out a way for him to stay?
IrishViking wrote:I would say that it takes as much faith at this point to see that news as positive as it takes lack of faith to see it negative.
I didn't express a wish for no negativity. I'm just pointing out that people are reacting again and again based on what they want to see, what they're worried will happen, etc. It's fascinating see the various directions the speculation takes, and the degree of certainty that gets expressed, when there's basically an information black hole. The media doesn't seem to know how to handle it either. You can feel their need to cover it, to keep it in the headlines, but there's just no concrete info for them to grab onto and report.I understand the wish for no negativity but there is a lot of pent up energy so far about this it would seem. Some people cope by imagining worst case scenarios and preparing themselves for them.
Mothman wrote:
That's why I referred to the situation as a blank canvas and a rorscach test.
I didn't express a wish for no negativity. I'm just pointing out that people are reacting again and again based on what they want to see, what they're worried will happen, etc. It's fascinating see the various directions the speculation takes, and the degree of certainty that gets expressed, when there's basically an information black hole. The media doesn't seem to know how to handle it either. You can feel their need to cover it, to keep it in the headlines, but there's just no concrete info for them to grab onto and report.
It's like the Vikings and Peterson are conducting a big psychological experiment on everybody!