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Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 8:52 pm
by Noxage
I find it unlikely Roger Goodell could manage an Applebee's let alone an organization with multi billion dollar revenues. He's in way over his head, he's been in way over his head and he will continue to be in way over his head.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2014 9:44 pm
by PurpleMustReign
Noxage wrote:I find it unlikely Roger Goodell could manage an Applebee's let alone an organization with multi billion dollar revenues. He's in way over his head, he's been in way over his head and he will continue to be in way over his head.
He's terrible. He will ruin the NFL, mark my words.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:34 pm
by denburch
I am not sure if this is related to the plea deal, but the timing of this seems odd. Peterson's agent fired by the CAA.
NFL on ESPN ‏@ESPNNFL · 32m32 minutes ago
JUST IN: CAA has fired agent Ben Dogra for cause, per league source. Dogra represents Adrian Peterson and Richard Sherman, among others

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 5:53 pm
by PacificNorseWest
What's CAA? The company name?

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 6:48 pm
by Mothman
PacificNorseWest wrote:What's CAA? The company name?

Yes. It stands for Creative Artists Agency:

http://sports.caa.com/

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:13 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
DKSweets wrote:I thought you wanted AD to miss more games?

Regardless, the fine will be proportionally to his income. He'll lose game checks.
Oh, I never want to see the man in a Vikings uniform again. But ive stated my opinion many time in the thread.

But the NFL should have acted by now. Period. They have had more then adequate time to let AD's lawyers know when/if he will play this year. It makes me angry that this is the way Goodell handles things.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 7:17 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
PurpleMustReign wrote: He's terrible. He will ruin the NFL, mark my words.
Exactly. If he isn't fired.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:31 am
by PurpleKoolaid
And BGM, The Princess Bride is on ABC Family right now, just FYI )

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:31 am
by maembe
PurpleMustReign wrote: Can the union appeal if that happens?
Yes, and he would be allowed to play until the appeal is heard. There is no way on earth he gets a six game suspension after effectively being suspended for nine games. This is why it's so frustrating that the NFL is dragging their feet. They want to suspend him as long as possible without giving him a chance for an appeal.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:36 am
by maembe
It seems like the Players Association needs to get the NFL to hire some sort of semi-impartial arbitrator to deal with all player discipline. Goodell simply can't handle it in a remotely objective way and is just kind of making it up as he goes along. The NFLPA should be raising hell over this.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 7:58 am
by PurpleHalo
Purple bruise wrote:
Sheeez really :confused: Does anyone believe that opposing defenses will get into his head. He wrongfully went overboard diciplining his child (no one could dispute that) but I do not think that any other opposing player will give a rat's a$$ about it one way or another while on the field. As far as the fans go, I would bet that most Viking fans will cheer for him when he returns. He went through the court system and punishment was meted out to him. Forgive and forget I always say.
They may try to get to him, but he is a well liked player so it my not be as bad. And it may not be a good idea to try, it may make him run angry. And we have seen what happens when he runs angry.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:01 am
by PurpleHalo
Cliff wrote:Part of me feels like the league treating him this way is part of a plan. Shift the focus on on how he's being treated unfairly by the league (who everybody already hates anyway) and maybe recover some of his market value. Punish him to the point where people start to sympathize with him rather than be mad at him for his actions.

Image
I'm not sure the NFL is thinking that deeply on it, and I don't think they care about the image of the player in the publics eye.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 8:33 am
by fiestavike
PurpleHalo wrote: I'm not sure the NFL is thinking that deeply on it, and I don't think they care about the image of the player in the publics eye.
I'm not sure they care about the image of the player either, but I do think they care about their image, and would much rather have the image of being too hard on players than too soft on them given recent events. The perception that their hand is forced by the union or the legal process into allowing a player to return would give them the ability to not be the bad guy in this from a PR standpoint, at least among the segment of the population that makes the most noise and gets sponsors worried. Its all about perception in the end. I don't think Goodell personally cares when Peterson returns to the field one way or the other, but they care how they are perceived. The result might be the exact same thing in either case - say Peterson starting after chicago or being suspended for the whole year or...whatever - but the perception will be different if it results from an immediate 2 game suspension by Goodell or after a protracted battle with the players union in which an arbitrator reinstates him.

I'm not sure this is the smartest way to do it. In my opinion the better PR move would have been to accept the time served as suspension and fine him 8 game checks and call it an 8 game suspension. That sounds better than a 4 game suspension for the same act. If he or the union want to try to get back some of the money that won't amount to much of a story over the longterm as the player would still be on the field, which is what all these stories are ultimately about.

I think the NFL had an easy out on this and blew it, but I feel confident that all these angles factor into their decisions, they just don't have a team that's very good at this game IMO.

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:46 pm
by chicagopurple
You cant blame it all on Goodell, the lions share of blame is on he modern players who are frequently little more then street thugs who would be killing and selling drugs or robbing you if they werent good at playing with that funny shaped ball.....Its the players who are choosing to torture dogs & kids, deal drugs, molest and rape women, and murder. Its not really the leagues job to cover up the crimes. Perhaps the real answer lies in better standards and eliminating free rides in college. If these guys actually had to go to classes, do their own homework, and EARN their degree in 4 years they might actually have some better judgement, self-esteem, and character......

Re: Peterson plea deal...

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 2:00 pm
by Purple bruise
chicagopurple wrote:You cant blame it all on Goodell, the lions share of blame is on he modern players who are frequently little more then street thugs who would be killing and selling drugs or robbing you if they werent good at playing with that funny shaped ball.....Its the players who are choosing to torture dogs & kids, deal drugs, molest and rape women, and murder. Its not really the leagues job to cover up the crimes. Perhaps the real answer lies in better standards and eliminating free rides in college. If these guys actually had to go to classes, do their own homework, and EARN their degree in 4 years they might actually have some better judgement, self-esteem, and character......
Wow, seems as though you are pretty much out of touch with reality there Doctor. What percentage of NFL players get into trouble anyway....do you have a guess? I would bet that it is a very small fraction of the thousands of players that are on active rosters.
For several poor kids, sports is their only avenue out of the ghettos and hardships that they face gowing up impoverished.