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PurpleMustReign wrote:Someone told me this morning that Harvin said he would hold out. Has he been quoted recently saying that?

Per a league source, Harvin currently is expected to stay away from offseason workouts and training camp absent a new deal.

This is the NFL, and what we know for sure about Harvin is that he never has been indicted on double murder charges, doesn't get fat before realizing he needs NFL paychecks to pay off past bar bills, never plays at half-speed and has yet to speak out against the possibility of a gay teammate.

The Super Bowl featured players for whom the same can't be said. The Baltimore Ravens won the title while relying on Ray Lewis and Bryant McKinnie, beating a 49ers team that employs Randy Moss and homophobe cornerback Chris Culliver.

If those teams can win with those personalities, the Vikings can afford to gamble on a 24-year-old player at a position of great need who three months ago was considered one of the most valuable players in the league.

dead_poet wrote:Pretty solid column by Souhan.

Souhan: Volatile Harvin still brings more reward than risk
http://m.startribune.com/?id=190948781

dead_poet wrote:Pretty solid column by Souhan.

Souhan: Volatile Harvin still brings more reward than risk
http://m.startribune.com/?id=190948781

mrc44 wrote:But at the same time both of those teams are coached by some of the strongest minded and outspoken coaches in the league... we don't have a coach like that. We have a calm quiet coach that obviously handles situations differently. Do I like Frazier? yes I think he is awesome, but he just doesn't seem like the type of coach that can be the leader of players with ego's.

Frazier just doesnt have that fire that I see in the Harbaughs. Thats jmo

chicagopurple wrote:Harvin's biggest limitation is that he lacks a QB to throw him the ball. He knows it and , as a WR, finds it frustrating. I think he is just being really honest. A WR has a limited career, and if he spends it waiting on the QB to grow up and get his head straight, his career might be over. I think the whole Harvin thing isa realdistraction from the very serious question the Vikes have at the QB position. NONE of current WR greats in the league would be happy with Ponder this year. He would make them all look worse.

mrc44 wrote: HAHAHHA, that's funny that you say he regressed. Did he have a slump midway through the season? yes. but did he regress as the season went on? no. He had one of his best games of his career against Green Bay and it was at the end of the season, and it was with out Percy Harvin. So IMO you are wrong.

As far as spending it with a QB growing, I disagree with that as well. Larry Fitzgerald is not complaining in Arizona, and the reason is because HE GOT PAID! Harvin probably cares less where he plays if he gets PAID. In fact I guarantee he would would rather play in Minnesota if he was paid, because he is familiar with the play book and it is centered around HIM and AP.

Ponder helped Percy almost reach the best year of his career, yet PH got injured and was out half of the season. Where PH does best (like Mothman and I had said earlier) is in the screens, when he is given the ball quick and early so he can just destroy the defense with his speed and agility. In that case what does it matter what the QB is capable of? If the QB can throw 5 yards then he should be able to get the ball to PH.

Also, I don't think that Ponder is as bad as a lot of people think he is. I think that his ability to throw down field and longer post routes, was crippled by the horrible WR's we had on this team. And proof of that came around once Wright was put in the game to stretch the field. I fyou go back and look at those deep throws, the majority of them are BEAUTIFUL. I bet you the 2013 season, as long as we get some LEGIT WR help, will be completely different.

All we need is weapons around Ponder and he will play a great deal better. Here is what I think we should do this offseason with our WR corps;

release AromashaPOO, JOKEns, Burtin.

Resign Jerome Simpson to a 1 year deal for back up purposes, along with the fact that our QB is requesting it.

Resign PH to a nice contract (maybe 7 million per year for 5 years, with 15 million guaranteed)

Draft Patterson or Allen in the 1st or draft Hopkins, Williams, Patton, or Woods in the 2nd

Draft Aaron Dobson in the 4th


So now we have.. Percy Harvin, Jarius Wright, Jerome Simpson, Aaron Dobson (6'3 205lbs, 4.33 sec 40) and then say Hopkins (just for fun). That is one helluva WR corps in my opinion!! Teh last guy needed can come from late in the draft or from practice squad.

dead_poet wrote:

Percy Harvin - WR - Vikings

According to a "high-ranking Vikings source," Percy Harvin "expects" an extension similar to the deals recently signed by Calvin Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald.

The league's two highest paid receivers, Johnson scored an eight-year, $150.5 million pact last March, while Fitzgerald is entering year three of an eight-year, $128.5 million deal. Megatron's deal includes $60 million guaranteed, Fitz's $50 million. If true, it would certainly explain why the Vikings are at least exploring trading a player who's among the most gifted in the league, but also hot-headed with health question marks. However, it's extremely doubtful Harvin could even approach Fitz and Mega's deals, in Minnesota or elsewhere. We're likely only at the beginning of a long and winding ordeal.
Source: ESPN.com