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fiestavike wrote: here here...Here's to the 2013 Minnesota Vikings on a tough season where they showed a lot of toughness and commitment and character. I'm proud of this team. For all our sakes I wish it could have turned out better. We'll miss some of the guys likely to leave. Thanks for the memories this season.

Interesting. Proud of a team with 5 wins. You must be a very happy Viking fan. 5 wins is better then none, not much to be proud of. I guess Im happy Fraizer didn't tie his own record of being the worst Vikings HC ever. 5 wins beats 3.

Im much happier to move from on from this mess. And pray the Wilf's know what they are doing for the first time since they bought the team.

If Peterson advocates for Frazier, he advocates for the irrelevnancy of his career.
This team will do nothing but 3 to 5 win seasons with wild card knock outs under Frazier.

Hunter Morrow wrote:If Peterson advocates for Frazier, he advocates for the irrelevnancy of his career.
This team will do nothing but 3 to 5 win seasons with wild card knock outs under Frazier.

It's hard to say what exactly Frazier can and can't do because he's never had an overly talented team. Now obviously every coach who's ever been fired could probably say that, but it's not like he's ever had the 2009 roster and totally bungled it. Of course, it is the job of the coach/staff to get the most out of their players, but I think it's presumptuous to say the vikings can never win with Frazier.

CalVike wrote:The Vikings turned around a 1-7 start to a 4-3-1 close. Pretty impressive considering the ill advised decision to sign Josh Freeman and all the injuries. Congrats to Frazier and staff and the players for making it happen! Much preferable to me to the 2-14 finish that would have got us the #1 draft pick. Skol!


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What's interesting about the 4-3-1. The Vikings have the best record in the second 8 games of any NFC North team. I matters not who wins in the Packers - Bears game. The Lions are 2-6, the best the Packers can be is 3-4-1, and the best the Bears can be is 4-4. 4-3-1 beats 4-4.

fiestavike wrote:frazier a bit more candid about some of the questions that have come up on this board from time to time...especially deciding who to start at QB.

http://www.vikings.com/media-vault/vide ... 7b4e0af307

Thanks for posting this. Frazier basically said all the QB moves were signed off by ownership and the GM, unlike decisions at Center or Guard. That was interesting.


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Interesting. At one point I couldn't even make a sarcastic point about what a poster posted, but now personal attacks are allowed. Id love to reply, but I don't really want to get banned.

fiestavike wrote: I'm not trying to insult or attack you...it seems almost pointless to have this conversation because you seem almost to willfully misconstrue, but I feel compelled to give it one last try.

Did you honestly interpret my post as saying "I am proud this team only won 5 games"? Do you honestly think that is what I said? If so, I am concerned for you, honestly, I don't mean that as a barb.

Can you not think of any reason to be proud of a given team besides how many wins they accumulate? Is there no other reason you can imagine?

Not when your premise is, maybe its a good idea to keep Fraizer. Or maybe if we won 5 road games. I am tired of us being in the cellar. Nothing about it makes me proud, Even Cassel, who I had hoped could lead us next year while we let a rookie learn, has let me down. As the Vikings have done for decades. Being 'made fun of' and questioning my mental capacity is something I would love to discuss further with you, but I would be the one to get the ban. And its not worth that.

Not when your premise is, maybe its a good idea to keep Fraizer. Or maybe if we won 5 road games. I am tired of us being in the cellar. Nothing about it makes me proud, Even Cassel, who I had hoped could lead us next year while we let a rookie learn, has let me down. As the Vikings have done for decades.

What was inspiring to me was not the 5 wins but rather the turn around from 1-7 to 4-3-1. It speaks well to coaches and players that they did that. The Wilf's fired Mike Tice after a 9-7 and one year removed from a playoff season, to the dismay of a small crowd. They then fired Childress less than one year removed from a 12-4 season with an NFC Championship, to the dismay of few. Changing coaches is not a panacea. Spielman and Frazier are inexorably linked in the failure that was 2013. Frazier did all he could to survive the failure at QB that Spielman provided him, in addition to the lack of talent across the defense. For some, it is sad Frazier appears likely to pay the sole price with his job to a group effort at failure in 2013, just one year removed from success in 2012. Both should stay or both should go. Frazier is not an abject failure.


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Both should go. QB and personnel decisions alone, plus woeful second half performance.

This team seems to be objectivley outcoached almost every game.

Glad to see us win the last game. Hopefully it doesn't prevent Frazier and Alan Williams from being fired.

CalVike wrote: What was inspiring to me was not the 5 wins but rather the turn around from 1-7 to 4-3-1. It speaks well to coaches and players that they did that. The Wilf's fired Mike Tice after a 9-7 and one year removed from a playoff season, to the dismay of a small crowd. They then fired Childress less than one year removed from a 12-4 season with an NFC Championship, to the dismay of few. Changing coaches is not a panacea. Spielman and Frazier are inexorably linked in the failure that was 2013. Frazier did all he could to survive the failure at QB that Spielman provided him, in addition to the lack of talent across the defense. For some, it is sad Frazier appears likely to pay the sole price with his job to a group effort at failure in 2013, just one year removed from success in 2012. Both should stay or both should go. Frazier is not an abject failure.


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great post

i was at the game today, so it was no surprise that we won!

Anyway, the dome was nearly full to capacity today. It was a great sight to see given that it was the last game there. I will admit, the dome isn't an ideal stadium, but I will miss it. I just loved the game day atmosphere.

I loved listening to Matt Birk, Robert Smith, Adrian Peterson, and Bud Grant speak when the game was over. Those four had great messages for a dome send off.

HardcoreVikesFan wrote:i was at the game today, so it was no surprise that we won!

Anyway, the dome was nearly full to capacity today. It was a great sight to see given that it was the last game there. I will admit, the dome isn't an ideal stadium, but I will miss it. I just loved the game day atmosphere.

I loved listening to Matt Birk, Robert Smith, Adrian Peterson, and Bud Grant speak when the game was over. Those four had great messages for a dome send off.

Yeah that was really cool. Thanks to Melanie I was able to go to the game today and use her spare ticket! The place was packed which is surprising for a team with nothing to play for and a horrible record. Not to mention people tail gating in -10 degree -40 windshield weather!

For anyone who says we don't deserve a new stadium or vikings fans aren't good fans, I would say you've never actually been to a game!

And whats up with all you guys attacking each other?! If you can't agree with someone that's fine but let's not attack each other! I don't mean to sound like anyone's dad but damn, we're all vikings fans and it was a good win today!

HardcoreVikesFan wrote:i was at the game today, so it was no surprise that we won!

Anyway, the dome was nearly full to capacity today. It was a great sight to see given that it was the last game there. I will admit, the dome isn't an ideal stadium, but I will miss it. I just loved the game day atmosphere.

I loved listening to Matt Birk, Robert Smith, Adrian Peterson, and Bud Grant speak when the game was over. Those four had great messages for a dome send off.

That's cool. I wish I could have seen/heard that.

I'm glad you were able to be there in person for the last game (and win) at the dome!

mondry wrote:Yeah that was really cool. Thanks to Melanie I was able to go to the game today and use her spare ticket! The place was packed which is surprising for a team with nothing to play for and a horrible record. Not to mention people tail gating in -10 degree -40 windshield weather!

For anyone who says we don't deserve a new stadium or vikings fans aren't good fans, I would say you've never actually been to a game!

And whats up with all you guys attacking each other?! If you can't agree with someone that's fine but let's not attack each other! I don't mean to sound like anyone's dad but damn, we're all vikings fans and it was a good win today!

Yes, it was and I'm glad you saw it.

I only made it to two games in the dome and I never saw a win but I had a great time on both occasions and found the local fans great, friendly and extremely supportive of their team. Hopefully, the new stadium (and future Vikings teams) will provide an even better experience.