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Milkman14 wrote: I am totally stealing this and will use in any argument about PH and AW.

again, he wanted Brian Urlacher.

Milkman14 wrote: I am totally stealing this and will use in any argument about PH and AW.

again, he wanted Brian Urlacher.

Again, the other options (cole, a rookie) won't have a single nfl snap. At one of, if not THE most important positions in this defense. Who has more years in the defense than our defensive coordinator does.

Compared to a slot corner who was already cut for cap reasons, and already was going to get his playing time cut?

Guess it's the same situation though. Apples to Apples and all that. Let's not even consider the actual situations we'll just say "They're both old!"

Apple.

mansquatch wrote:I think I saw a figure that put the Vikings at 4.4MM under the cap and a team typically needing $3-$5MM to sign a whole draft class. Given how many picks the Vikes have hoarded, they will be in the upper end of that range.

IMO, then, what they did makes sense and I withdraw my criticism of Spielman. You needed to resign your young RT plus you knew going into this offseason that you were going to dish Harvin (they knew it, dont kid yourselves) and would need $$$ to sign a FA WR. All that adds up to needing cap space and in that scenario, Winfield's Cap # was low hanging fruit.

Next year is going to be tumultuous. They are going to have to bring JA down to earth in terms of his cap #, plus KWill. Also resigning (if he deserves it) Ponder will become a priority.

Yeah, the straight numbers side of it leads me to believe it was never Spielman's intention or he at least wouldn't have high hopes of getting Winfield back, especially not cutting him and EXPECTING him to come back cheap just because.

JA is interesting, his cap number is huge so there's a lot of potential room to free up there. If they thought Griffen could take his place and resign Robinson to a modest deal they'd save a boat load. Then depending on if they restructure or cut K.will they could potentially save like 22 million. We'll know a little more about the future plan after the draft which I can't wait for. Imagine if the BPA happened to be a DE and he has a good rookie year, we could potentially not resign allen or robison and go with Griffen + new DE. If we get a DT that isn't going to play the NT position Kwill will likely be gone if he doesn't restructure.

That's rebuilding for you though, which I'm okay with. No more going all in for a 1-2 year window with these older players.

Demi wrote:
This is the NFL, not Dandy Dan's Car Wash. Putting in 20 years of service shouldn't be considered for a second.

Dandy Dan's Car Wash! Balls that was funny.

The NFL is a highly competitive market and the marketplace is no place for loyalty. It's a dirty realm. I don't think Spielman was quite the scoundrel that Toine's camp wanted to depict him as. I liked him plenty, but it seems to me that he used the media creatively/artfully.

From Jason La Canfora:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/jason ... sions-soon

Winfield realizes that while he can take his time making a decision, and no one is rushing him, at some point he will need to pick a team and get going with their program. Those close to him expect that decision to come this weekend.

Winfield to Seattle. Confirmed on NFL network

Good job Spielman. At least we have Jefferson. Should keep the Demi-like fans happy.

Sad to see him go. Updated order of needs:

MLB
CB
WR
DT
OG

####. Better draft someone or do something. I cannot stomach another season of A.J. Jefferson/Sherels.

VikingPaul73 wrote:Sad to see him go. Updated order of needs:

MLB
CB
WR
DT
OG

I agree. CB becomes a front burner issue now.

Xavier Rhodes

Boon wrote: Well if cook and robinson stay healthy you won't have to

That's a big "IF" with Cook. Has he been healthy for an entire season yet? The guy is FRAGILE...

billingsviking wrote:
That's a big "IF" with Cook. Has he been healthy for an entire season yet? The guy is FRAGILE...

I think he was healthy when he was trying to kill his GF.

Boon wrote:Well 10 drug tests or not i still take matthieu. Its just weed and there is a big difference when no one is telling you anything and covering #### up for you vs getting caught and now everyone is watching your every move. Whats the worst that can happen? have a third/4th round baller come in and play a few seasons? Even if he does get caught again, its not like they broke the house trying to get the guy. jesus christ.

Doesnt that tell you something? This jacka$$ cant even stay off weed. Think about it. To be a multi millionare, he cant stay off a supposed non addictive drug. Hes not only an idiot, he has no self control.

VikingPaul73 wrote:Sad to see him go. Updated order of needs:

MLB
CB
WR
DT
OG

Although the Vikings don't currently have a starting MLB on their roster, I still can't believe it's their #1 need. There isn't a Derek Brooks or Brian Urlacher (at least it seems) in this year's draft. I think play makers on offense and defense are more of a priority than MLB is. The Vikings play against 3 above average QB's in Cutler, Rogers and Stafford. Neither team currently has a tight end that I'm too worried about. Cook is in a contract year, Robinson is coming off a season where he had his ups and downs and everything behind that is awful. On the Offensive side we picked up Greg Jennings, but he hasn't exactly been setting the league on fire the last two years and after that there's Jarius Wright, who seems to have a promising future, the retread Simpson and a bunch of nobodies. In order to keep up in this Division I think they definitely need to go CB and WR in round, maybe DT in round 2 and MLB in round 3.