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PurpleMustReign wrote: Yeah but the difference is that Peyton was the one who choked in the playoffs so many times. In Rodgers' case, it is usually the rest of the team. He played good enough to win today, the team let him down in the end.

I disagree. His stat line today:

19/34, 178 yards, 55.9% completion, 5.24 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INT, 55.8 Passer Rating

He was awful for most of the game, but Wilson was even worse, so he overshadowed Rodgers playing so poorly.

PurpleMustReign wrote:
Yeah but the difference is that Peyton was the one who choked in the playoffs so many times. In Rodgers' case, it is usually the rest of the team. He played good enough to win today, the team let him down in the end.

I agree,..... with the caveat that if Peyton had better defenses at Indy the outcomes may have different....but I generally agree with you in the diff between the two.

Frosted wrote:No doubt - Seattle's defense overcame an equally impressive choke by Russ Wilson for 57 minutes, allowing Seattle to stay in the game long enough for Wilson to come around.

That said, McCarthy did as much as anyone to lose that game for Green Bay. His play calling was atrocious, I thought.

I thought so too. I wonder what is being said about that in Cheeseland tonight?

Even though 2 of Wilson's picks bounced right off his receivers hands, he still forced some awful passes and looked clearly out of sorts, judging by his play, after that neck snapping hit by Matthews. The passes at the end were things of beauty.

frosted wrote: I disagree. His stat line today:

19/34, 178 yards, 55.9% completion, 5.24 YPA, 1 TD, 2 INT, 55.8 Passer Rating

He was awful for most of the game, but Wilson was even worse, so he overshadowed Rodgers playing so poorly.

good point

The Breeze wrote: I agree,..... with the caveat that if Peyton had better defenses at Indy the outcomes may have different....but I generally agree with you in the diff between the two.

I thought so too. I wonder what is being said about that in Cheeseland tonight?

Even though 2 of Wilson's picks bounced right off his receivers hands, he still forced some awful passes and looked clearly out of sorts, judging by his play, after that neck snapping hit by Matthews. The passes at the end were things of beauty.

As a side note, I love me some "MR. Wilson". What a classy young man, humble and very talented. And yes, TB reminds me a whole lot of Wilson for the same reasons
Must add some salt to their wounds having cheered for him while he was starring for the Badgers and then watching him come through in the clutch and pulling the game out of the fire.

Purple bruise wrote:

Must add some salt to their wounds having cheered for him while he was starring for the Badgers and then watching him come through in the clutch and pulling the game out of the fire.

Indeed....hadn't even thought of that.

The Breeze wrote: Indeed....hadn't even thought of that.

OUCH

Frosted wrote: That said, McCarthy did as much as anyone to lose that game for Green Bay. His play calling was atrocious, I thought.

He seemed very upset after the game when he was interviewed. I wish Chris Meyers would have said "Why did you play like pansies in the last four minutes of the game?"

PurpleMustReign wrote:
He seemed very upset after the game when he was interviewed. I wish Chris Meyers would have said "Why did you play like pansies in the last four minutes of the game?"

frosted wrote:

I know it's mean, but FFS, it is nice to see Green Bay choke a game away like the Vikings normally do.

Packers can't win on the road against good teams. They haven't for the past three years. That's how the Vikings will take over the North. By winning against good teams on the road.

Raptorman wrote:Packers can't win on the road against good teams. They haven't for the past three years. That's how the Vikings will take over the North. By winning against good teams on the road.

Whoa... Thats a ballsy prediction... The Vikings have been terrible on the road for years. I like the thought, though.

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Purple bruise wrote: As a side note, I love me some "MR. Wilson". What a classy young man, humble and very talented. And yes, TB reminds me a whole lot of Wilson for the same reasons

I personally think Wilson has taken one too many hits to the head after listening to him after the game. Dude is super lucky to be going back to the Superbowl and he should have just said that, but instead he and the rest of his team seem to think they deserved it. Packers handed it to them and granted, they took what was handed to them, but they were extremely fortunate the Packers pulled a Vikings and completely imploded. The funniest part of the whole thing is, having experienced this so many times as a Vikings fan I could see it happening well before it happened, and in some strange way it was nice to see some other team do it at a critical moment for once instead of my team, especially one that has enjoyed so much historical success as the Packers and has so rarely (if ever) completely imploded like that.

I'll still be rooting for the Hawks against the Pats, though, mostly because I can no longer stand Belicheat and Brady.

After reading Barnwell's column at Grantland, I have to think that the only real play where a GB player choked was on the onside kick....check that, the 2 point conversion was a poor defensive play too.

The OT TD was a great read and change at the line by Wilson. I read that is was originally a designed run and the Packers were lined up for it then Wilson changed it at the line. The 4th qtr performances by Wilson and Lynch were top notch.

I'm inclined to agree that the 4th qtr playcalling for the Pack's offense was too conservative. And if it's true that Rodgers expressed frustration at it...hooray! Nothing like discontent in cheeseland.

I also agree with the chorus of voices questioning McCarthy's decisions on 4th downs early in the game. Huge victories for the Seahawks D and made what happened at the end of the game possible. Even if they only converted one of those plays for a TD rather than a FG it still puts them plus 1 on the scoreboard.

It's a good read. http://grantland.com/the-triangle/afc-n ... s-packers/

If you want to know why the Packers lost these are the numbers for the Seattle offense for the last 6 minutes of the game including the OT as opposed to the first 56 minutes of the game.

Wilson Passing.
First 56 minutes of the game.
22 att 8 comp 75 yards 3.4 ypa 0 Td's 4 int. rating 7.0
Final 6 minutes
7 att 6 comp 134 yards 19.1 ypa 1 Td 0 int. rating 158.3

Seattle rushing.
First 56 minutes
27 attempts 125 yards 4.6 ypa 0 TD's
Final 6 minutes
8 attempts 69 yards, 8.6 ypa 2 TD's

Total offense
First 56 minutes.
219 yards 4.1 yards per play.

Final 6 minutes
203 yards 11.9 yards per play.

203 yards of total offense in 6 minutes. 48.1% of their offense for the entire game in the final 6 minutes including OT. Now who is to blame for that? That is all on the defense. Defensive play calling? The players? This is a complete meltdown of the Packers defense. For whatever reason.

The three and out and 30 yard punt didn't help. If there was ever a time for booming punt that was it.

Raptorman wrote:If you want to know why the Packers lost these are the numbers for the Seattle offense for the last 6 minutes of the game including the OT as opposed to the first 56 minutes of the game.




203 yards of total offense in 6 minutes. 48.1% of their offense for the entire game in the final 6 minutes including OT. Now who is to blame for that? That is all on the defense. Defensive play calling? The players? This is a complete meltdown of the Packers defense. For whatever reason.

The three and out and 30 yard punt didn't help. If there was ever a time for booming punt that was it.

a perfect storm of WTF?