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Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:25 am
by jeg067
IIsweet wrote:Jeg, thank you for your knowledge of what their cap hit would be. I was not sure what it would be for each player.
I didn't have the exact numbers in front of me, but I threw it out there. Next time I will thoroughly research before posting thoughts and opinions. My bad.
Now going forward, I like everyone hopes that our guys always develop into All Pro guys or reach their potential. I root for 1team and 1 only. We want the Vikings at the top every year. The current way has not worked with the current players. I merely suggest moving onto new players for the current staffs schemes.
Allowing the current coaching staff to hand pick the players. Granted, we all have our favorites, but I cheer for the Vikings, regardless of who's wearing the purple and gold !
I just hope that we continue to be more athletic and fun to watch while creating a great team.
http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/minnesota-vikings/cap/2015/
Subtract the "dead money" number from the "cap figure" number,
and you know how much you're saving when releasing a player.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:57 am
by IIsweet
Wow, you guys are brutal.
Merely pointed out numbers and got ridiculed.
Obviously we don't rid of everyone, but it goes to show that a large percentage, somebody will do the math just because, goes into only a handful of players. Robison is not going to get released as he starts and is productive.
Felton is not a ton of money, OG Johnson is not a lot.
AD,IMO, is not going to be a Viking. Taking anything we can in a trade, I think many teams will be giving up a nice draft pick for a chance at him.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:26 am
by IIsweet
Hopefully we have another solid draft and maybe Spielman finds a good FA.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:23 pm
by Purple bruise
Is there any reason to believe that Mckinnon can't be the "man"
Unless a great RB some how falls into their laps, I think much more pressing needs are necessary for this team.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 2:03 pm
by IIsweet
PBruise, you are right on. I think McKinnon can be the guy if given the ball regularly. Asiata is surprisingly off to a good start today, but not really "special" imo. Add Tate and we should be able to overcome AD. Are they as good? No chance, but we can improve dramatically as a team without ADs salary.
Looking forward to last couple games, but offseason should be exciting. Either we keep a top 5 player in the game, or we lose him and have a ton of $ to entice FAs .
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:53 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
Im certainly not sold on RB being our first priority next season. Asiata has an eye for the endzone, and is a good power runner. We don't know enough about McKinnon to say he cant be our main RB. The question is, do we keep Tate or Banyard. I hope we don't have to lose Felton. Norv has to get him in on some run plays.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:22 pm
by IIsweet
Honestly, Asiata just is not explosive. Maybe he's a FB ?
He works hard, runs hard, but he is a 3 yd per carry guy. He's definitely a red zone back, but doesn't bring fear to a Defense.
I am not thinking we need a RB in the draft, but definitely WR, OG, MLB, and CB.
Between FA and the draft, if we address those positions, we could seriously contend next year.
Gimme WR Parker, Bama MLB, and Wake Forest CB in draft. OG in FA and watch us drastically improve.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:39 pm
by Purple bruise
IIsweet wrote:Honestly, Asiata just is not explosive. Maybe he's a FB ?
He works hard, runs hard, but he is a 3 yd per carry guy. He's definitely a red zone back, but doesn't bring fear to a Defense.
I am not thinking we need a RB in the draft, but definitely WR, OG, MLB, and CB.
Between FA and the draft, if we address those positions, we could seriously contend next year.
Gimme WR Parker, Bama MLB, and Wake Forest CB in draft. OG in FA and watch us drastically improve.
He is not a breakaway threat, that is Mckinnon's job but I do not agree with you that he is not bringing fear to a defense. He is deadly in "must gain" situations and scoring tds..
I really like the kid and I think that the team and coaches do too. He is not going anywhere soon.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:51 pm
by IIsweet
Agree that he's not going anywhere, but he is a short yardage guy. He only gets what the OL creates.
I like him, but am not stuck on him. I just haven't seen a lot of him creating runs. Just taking what's provided.
Granted, that's good when the OL dominates.
I don't think he brings fear to a defense. AD does, Charles does, Foster, McCoy, Forte, and the list goes on.
I highly doubt DCoordinators are spending hours on game planning to stop Asiata in their meetings.
Regardless, I still say WR, LG on offense. MLB, CB on defense.
I've said for years that I think Robinson should be a safety.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 12:31 am
by PurpleKoolaid
One thing about this year's draft/FA is as long as its a quality player, no one should be disappointed in the position picked (minus QB and RB, if AD is back). Other then that I say WR or even BPA in countless positions. Zimmer is our man at HC, I hope Rick gets another year or 2, to see if he does have a plan. I am not big on his FAs. At all. And that should, and I think will, change this year.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:48 pm
by Demi
Isn't the cap going up quite a bit this year?
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:01 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
PurpleKoolaid wrote: I hope Rick gets another year or 2, to see if he does have a plan
Did someone hack your account because that sure doesn't sound like you
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:59 pm
by PurpleMustReign
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
I dont agree with that at all. Jennings is the most reliable WR we have and catches anything thrown his way. By releasing Robison, it does nothing besides put a hole at DE now which we don't need. Kalil is still very young and has been playing better lately. Why would we release a guy flat out when it doesn't even free cap space and he's only 25. Where is the logic behind that??
I was making fun of some of the other posters who wanted to get rid of the entire offense and defense. I know better than that
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:32 pm
by PurpleKoolaid
Pondering Her Percy wrote:
Did someone hack your account because that sure doesn't sound like you
I just think he should be given a couple years with Zimmer to see what the Vikes can do. I just cant be real big on Rick right now though. But I don't think changing stuff around right now is a good idea. We have been on a rollercoster ride since Tice got fired.
Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker
Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:41 am
by Boon
PurpleKoolaid wrote:Im certainly not sold on RB being our first priority next season. Asiata has an eye for the endzone, and is a good power runner. We don't know enough about McKinnon to say he cant be our main RB. The question is, do we keep Tate or Banyard. I hope we don't have to lose Felton. Norv has to get him in on some run plays.
Adrian isn't going anywhere. Tate will probably be gone and Banyard will go back to the practice squad.
There is no way in hell they let go of adrian, regardless of his cap hit, with the cap going up and a developing second year QB who could use a weapon like that to flourish.