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Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 10:55 pm
by cstelter
Mothman wrote:This Daily Norseman article is reminiscent of the kind of humor The Onion publishes. I thought it was pretty funny:

http://www.dailynorseman.com/2013/8/19/ ... eason-fans
dailynorseman wrote:We've seen the starters for like six series now--if they looked that bad over six series, it's pretty obvious that they're going to look that bad over 16 regular season games. It's simple math. Watch out 2008 Lions, you're going to have some company." (The 2008 Lions are the only NFL team in history to go 0-16.)
Of course that year Detroit went 0-16 after a 4-0 in preseason while Atlanta went 11-5 and the playoffs after losing their first two preseason games. The perfect example for this article...

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:29 am
by Texas Vike
MelanieMFunk wrote:Well, in my opinion, he was scampering out of bounds to avoid the hit...so I think it was a smart decision.

And, again, I think you say NOTHING about this if the injury hadn't happened. I think it's so easy to say after the fact "haha told you so" but that's bogus. So many other players are being far more ambitious in the preseason than trying to run out of bounds to avoid a hit, and they AREN'T getting injured. So, I don't think one backup doing so is a strong argument.

As far as AD, I think he'll be playing hard even if he's only in for a series or two. And, that's just the way the man plays. Most guys in the NFL don't sissy down just because it's preseason, even if you'd like them to.
Of course I'd have said nothing about it; it would have been just another poor decision in Preseason--one of millions. The fact that it ended up causing an injury made it relevant to the discussion and, specifically, that great sentence that Jim wrote the other day that got you all worked up.

But just because I'd have said nothing doesn't make Cousins' decision any better. The play is a good illustration of what some of us are pointing out: that the preseason isn't about winning the game at any cost, but rather evaluating your talent and not accruing significant injuries.

Do you get the irony of debating this stuff in this particular thread? I have to think that the writer of the article is following this thread and having a great laugh.

PS I would like to propose an addition to your signature line (where you quote yourself):
"The football God hates Vikings fans (even in Preseason)!"

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:01 am
by Funkytown
Texas Vike wrote:
Of course I'd have said nothing about it; it would have been just another poor decision in Preseason--one of millions. The fact that it ended up causing an injury made it relevant to the discussion and, specifically, that great sentence that Jim wrote the other day that got you all worked up.

But just because I'd have said nothing doesn't make Cousins' decision any better. The play is a good illustration of what some of us are pointing out: that the preseason isn't about winning the game at any cost, but rather evaluating your talent and not accruing significant injuries.

Do you get the irony of debating this stuff in this particular thread? I have to think that the writer of the article is following this thread and having a great laugh.

PS I would like to propose an addition to your signature line (where you quote yourself):
"The football God hates Vikings fans (even in Preseason)!"
What sentence that got me all worked up? I don't even know what you're referring to, so it must not have been that significant.

Somewhere along the lines here you are missing the point that he wasn't trying to be fancy or make a play; he was trying to run out of bounds to avoid a hit. I don't think for one second he was trying to win the game at all costs or anything of the sort. He was just doing what he is asked to do. I think you are over-exaggerating the situation to fit your argument to be honest with you. And, also, he didn't get seriously injured or anything. It's a sprained foot. And he's a backup player. The Skins are doomed! Funny how we should judge other teams and call them out for stupid stuff all while sugarcoating our own situation. I can see the logic behind that, too.

It almost seems as if you want these guys to play powderpuff football during the preseason. Because, after all, if running out of bounds (when you think you can make it) is too risky, no starters should be playing at all. Should they? Why risk it? If you know they are making the team, don't even play them at all. Just play the guys trying to fight for the roster spot. After all, the games mean nothing and no one should even try. Getting tackled is too scary!

I don't believe I ever said a team should try to win at all costs. I just believe that teams DO try to win, even with their second and third string players. I know you might not believe it by watching our Vikings, but...teams DO actually try to win in the preseason.

And also, I don't understand what is so funny about discussing this in this thread. Just because I want the Vikings to play better, be more in sync, and hopefully win in the preseason and I voice that, it means that I've given up on the team, think the sky is falling, and I'm a naysayer? Get out of town with that junk right now. Sorry I'm not satisfied with how things looked against the Bills and I expect a little better. And, yes, I expect a little more effort from our guys--particularly our o-line. But, I guess I'm asking too much; being too hard on the guys. I'll lighten up. I don't want to hear a peep out of anyone when Ponder gets his head ripped off, though. Because, that was my biggest concern. That is the ironic part. That I'm concerned about our play mostly because of how it affects our starting QB. But, now I know why we looked so bad. We weren't trying. The Vikings have the "It's only preseason" mentality. Hopefully that works out for them on Sunday vs. the Niners. :thumbsup:

Again, I'm just a BAMF because I expect NFL players to, ya know, play tackle football and not two-hand touch. For y'all's sake, I hope AD doesn't even play in the preseason. And if he does, I hope he falls down as soon as the ball hits his hands so he doesn't get tackled. It's not worth the risk. If it's stupid for Cousins to not avoid the hit (while, ya know, trying to avoid the hit), why in the heck is AD going to take one? He better not even be dressed on Sunday. :shock: He just better not be. I pray Frazier is as smart as you guys.

:govikes:

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:14 am
by Texas Vike
MelanieMFunk wrote: What sentence that got me all worked up? I don't even know what you're referring to, so it must not have been that significant.

Somewhere along the lines here you are missing the point that he wasn't trying to be fancy or make a play; he was trying to run out of bounds to avoid a hit. I don't think for one second he was trying to win the game at all costs or anything of the sort. He was just doing what he is asked to do. I think you are over-exaggerating the situation to fit your argument to be honest with you. And, also, he didn't get seriously injured or anything. It's a sprained foot. And he's a backup player. The Skins are doomed! Funny how we should judge other teams and call them out for stupid stuff all while sugarcoating our own situation. I can see the logic behind that, too.

It almost seems as if you want these guys to play powderpuff football during the preseason. Because, after all, if running out of bounds (when you think you can make it) is too risky, no starters should be playing at all. Should they? Why risk it? If you know they are making the team, don't even play them at all. Just play the guys trying to fight for the roster spot. After all, the games mean nothing and no one should even try. Getting tackled is too scary!

I don't believe I ever said a team should try to win at all costs. I just believe that teams DO try to win, even with their second and third string players. I know you might not believe it by watching our Vikings, but...teams DO actually try to win in the preseason.

And also, I don't understand what is so funny about discussing this in this thread. Just because I want the Vikings to play better, be more in sync, and hopefully win in the preseason and I voice that, it means that I've given up on the team, think the sky is falling, and I'm a naysayer? Get out of town with that junk right now. Sorry I'm not satisfied with how things looked against the Bills and I expect a little better. And, yes, I expect a little more effort from our guys--particularly our o-line. But, I guess I'm asking too much; being too hard on the guys. I'll lighten up. I don't want to hear a peep out of anyone when Ponder gets his head ripped off, though. Because, that was my biggest concern. That is the ironic part. That I'm concerned about our play mostly because of how it affects our starting QB. But, now I know why we looked so bad. We weren't trying. The Vikings have the "It's only preseason" mentality. Hopefully that works out for them on Sunday vs. the Niners. :thumbsup:

Again, I'm just a BAMF because I expect NFL players to, ya know, play tackle football and not two-hand touch. For y'all's sake, I hope AD doesn't even play in the preseason. And if he does, I hope he falls down as soon as the ball hits his hands so he doesn't get tackled. It's not worth the risk. If it's stupid for Cousins to not avoid the hit (while, ya know, trying to avoid the hit), why in the heck is AD going to take one? He better not even be dressed on Sunday. :shock: He just better not be. I pray Frazier is as smart as you guys.

:govikes:
http://vikingsmessageboard.com/viewtopi ... &start=390
Sentence in question:
"Perhaps not but their approach can also get key players banged up, expose significant elements of the playbook on film and potentially hurt their chances to win when games count."

AD should not play vs. SF. He doesn't need to. If he does, I hope he doesn't expose himself foolishly to unnecessary hits. Play normal, but be smart, that's all I would advise and expect.

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:20 am
by Mothman
BAMF?

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I know what it means, just havin' fun...

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:24 am
by Funkytown
Perhaps not but their approach can also get key players banged up, expose significant elements of the playbook on film and potentially hurt their chances to win when games count.
Key players are in the game no matter what the approach is, so...there is always a risk to get banged up. Again, that's football.

The idea of "exposing our playbook" in the preseason which might lead to complications later on, almost makes me chuckle. I tell ya what though, we sure did prevent any advantages that other teams might have gotten from our preseason so far. Good job Vikes. :) The plan is working. I guess I had it all wrong. Silly me.
AD should not play vs. SF. He doesn't need to. If he does, I hope he doesn't expose himself foolishly to unnecessary hits. Play normal, but be smart, that's all I would advise and expect
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Have you seen AD play? :)

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:25 am
by Purple bruise
Mothman wrote:BAMF?

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I know what it means, just havin' fun...
According to the urban dictionary BAMF= Bad A$$ Mother Effer (. Inspired by that silly #### Dane Cookust) guessing are you referring to Bad a$$ and another poster's name :?: could be wrong though.

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:27 am
by Funkytown
Mothman wrote:BAMF?

I know what it means, just havin' fun...
I'm having fun, too. :thumbsup:

Too bad I have to get some sleep soon. (I work overnights). Otherwise, I think Texas Vike and I might go at this all day. :lol:

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:30 am
by Mothman
Purple bruise wrote:According to the urban dictionary BAMF= Bad A$$ Mother Effer. Just guessing are you referring to Bad a$$ and another poster's name :?:
Melanie used BAMF in a post above and even though it's internet slang for something else, my association with it comes from the X-Men comics I read as a kid. Whenever the character Nightcrawler would teleport (his mutant power) they used that "BAMF" sound effect. So, I posted a pic of Nightcrawler with the sound effect...

Geeky, eh? :)

Jim

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:30 am
by Funkytown
Purple bruise wrote: According to the urban dictionary BAMF= Bad A$$ Mother Effer (. Inspired by that silly #### Dane Cookust) guessing are you referring to Bad a$$ and another poster's name :?: could be wrong though.
Yeah. You could be, and you would be. You were right the first time. But, I suppose your way could work, too.

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:31 am
by Purple bruise
Mothman wrote: Melanie used BAMF in a post above and even though it's internet slang for something else, my association with it comes from the X-Men comics I read as a kid. Whenever the character Nightcrawler would teleport (his mutant power) they used that "BAMF" sound effect. So, I posted a pic of Nightcrawler with the sound effect...

Geeky, eh? :)

Jim
I like it a lot :point:

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:32 am
by Funkytown
...my association with it comes from the X-Men comics I read as a kid. Whenever the character Nightcrawler would teleport (his mutant power) they used that "BAMF" sound effect. So, I posted a pic of Nightcrawler with the sound effect...

Geeky, eh? :)


:lol: ...beyond! ;)

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 10:58 am
by Mothman
MelanieMFunk wrote: :lol: ...beyond! ;)
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Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:05 am
by Funkytown
I'm so glad to finally be able to put a face to the name, Jim. Thank you. :lol:

Cute kid. I'm sure you aged quite well and kept your awesome style. ;)

Re: Vikings Down To 37 Fans After 0-2 Preseason Start

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 11:57 am
by Mothman
MelanieMFunk wrote:I'm so glad to finally be able to put a face to the name, Jim. Thank you. :lol:

Cute kid. I'm sure you aged quite well and kept your awesome style. ;)
Aged? That picture of me was taken yesterday!

Seriously, that's not me. This is me:

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