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Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:19 pm
by VikingsVictorious
Huge Breaking News. Not Vikings related forgive me.
PATRICK MAHOMES
QB, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Chiefs signed QB Patrick Mahomes to a 10-year extension through 2031.
Ten-year contracts are literally unheard of in the NFL, but if anybody is worth one, it's certainly last year's Super Bowl MVP. Turning 25 in September, Mahomes won the regular-season MVP award in 2018, leading the league with 50 touchdown passes. He took a step back from a statistical perspective last year, but Mahomes put the team on his back when it mattered most in the playoffs, leading multiple postseason comebacks en route to the Chiefs' first Super Bowl title since 1969. Mahomes is on the fast track of becoming the best quarterback in history. The Chiefs had just one player signed through 2024 -- K Harrison Butker -- and Mahomes is inked seven years past that. He's tied to Kansas City through his age-36 season.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 6, 2020, 2:55 PM ET
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2020 11:05 pm
by RandyMoss84
VikingsVictorious wrote: βMon Jul 06, 2020 2:19 pm
Huge Breaking News. Not Vikings related forgive me.
PATRICK MAHOMES
QB, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Chiefs signed QB Patrick Mahomes to a 10-year extension through 2031.
Ten-year contracts are literally unheard of in the NFL, but if anybody is worth one, it's certainly last year's Super Bowl MVP. Turning 25 in September, Mahomes won the regular-season MVP award in 2018, leading the league with 50 touchdown passes. He took a step back from a statistical perspective last year, but Mahomes put the team on his back when it mattered most in the playoffs, leading multiple postseason comebacks en route to the Chiefs' first Super Bowl title since 1969. Mahomes is on the fast track of becoming the best quarterback in history. The Chiefs had just one player signed through 2024 -- K Harrison Butker -- and Mahomes is inked seven years past that. He's tied to Kansas City through his age-36 season.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 6, 2020, 2:55 PM ET
I would not call that huge breaking news, it is expected

Now letβs see if Cowboys are dumb enough to give Dak that much money
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:15 am
by Cliff
RandyMoss84 wrote: βMon Jul 06, 2020 11:05 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: βMon Jul 06, 2020 2:19 pm
Huge Breaking News. Not Vikings related forgive me.
PATRICK MAHOMES
QB, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Chiefs signed QB Patrick Mahomes to a 10-year extension through 2031.
Ten-year contracts are literally unheard of in the NFL, but if anybody is worth one, it's certainly last year's Super Bowl MVP. Turning 25 in September, Mahomes won the regular-season MVP award in 2018, leading the league with 50 touchdown passes. He took a step back from a statistical perspective last year, but Mahomes put the team on his back when it mattered most in the playoffs, leading multiple postseason comebacks en route to the Chiefs' first Super Bowl title since 1969. Mahomes is on the fast track of becoming the best quarterback in history. The Chiefs had just one player signed through 2024 -- K Harrison Butker -- and Mahomes is inked seven years past that. He's tied to Kansas City through his age-36 season.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 6, 2020, 2:55 PM ET
I would not call that huge breaking news, it is expected

Now letβs see if Cowboys are dumb enough to give Dak that much money
It's not the Money tho, it's the 10 years.
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 8:29 am
by StumpHunter
Cliff wrote: βTue Jul 07, 2020 8:15 am
RandyMoss84 wrote: βMon Jul 06, 2020 11:05 pm
I would not call that huge breaking news, it is expected

Now letβs see if Cowboys are dumb enough to give Dak that much money
It's not the Money tho, it's the 10 years.
It is a pretty team friendly deal. Essentially a 1 year extension with 9 consecutive years of a team option. Now, the team option is pricey (cutting him costs them his current year's salary at any point), but to put it in perspective, if the Vikings keep giving Cousins extensions similar to the most recent one, Mahomes will never make more than Kirk Cousins.

Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 9:51 am
by RandyMoss84
I remember Vikings gave Randy a 8 year deal worth $75 million but he only stayed for 3 years until he got traded to the Raiders
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 3:13 pm
by S197
StumpHunter wrote: βTue Jul 07, 2020 8:29 am
Cliff wrote: βTue Jul 07, 2020 8:15 am
It's not the Money tho, it's the 10 years.
It is a pretty team friendly deal. Essentially a 1 year extension with 9 consecutive years of a team option. Now, the team option is pricey (cutting him costs them his current year's salary at any point), but to put it in perspective, if the Vikings keep giving Cousins extensions similar to the most recent one, Mahomes will never make more than Kirk Cousins.
I was going to post something similar. Once you get past the big number and the 10-years, it's actually a mutually beneficial contract. Mahomes will get paid while the Chiefs are able to manage their cap. If you assume cap inflation (cap may go down next year but likely an outlier) it's even an better deal for the Chiefs.
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:03 am
by VikingsVictorious
RandyMoss84 wrote: βMon Jul 06, 2020 11:05 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: βMon Jul 06, 2020 2:19 pm
Huge Breaking News. Not Vikings related forgive me.
PATRICK MAHOMES
QB, KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Chiefs signed QB Patrick Mahomes to a 10-year extension through 2031.
Ten-year contracts are literally unheard of in the NFL, but if anybody is worth one, it's certainly last year's Super Bowl MVP. Turning 25 in September, Mahomes won the regular-season MVP award in 2018, leading the league with 50 touchdown passes. He took a step back from a statistical perspective last year, but Mahomes put the team on his back when it mattered most in the playoffs, leading multiple postseason comebacks en route to the Chiefs' first Super Bowl title since 1969. Mahomes is on the fast track of becoming the best quarterback in history. The Chiefs had just one player signed through 2024 -- K Harrison Butker -- and Mahomes is inked seven years past that. He's tied to Kansas City through his age-36 season.
SOURCE: Adam Schefter on Twitter
Jul 6, 2020, 2:55 PM ET
I would not call that huge breaking news, it is expected

Now letβs see if Cowboys are dumb enough to give Dak that much money
Being expected or not it's still HUGE news and it is breaking because I reported it very shortly after it became known. It seems it is 10 years at 50 Million a year and whatever the hell guaranteed mechanisms are it would likely lead to 477 million of the 503 million being guaranteed. Don't get injured Patrick.
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:50 am
by RandyMoss84
VikingsVictorious wrote: βWed Jul 08, 2020 1:03 am
RandyMoss84 wrote: βMon Jul 06, 2020 11:05 pm
I would not call that huge breaking news, it is expected

Now letβs see if Cowboys are dumb enough to give Dak that much money
Being expected or not it's still HUGE news and it is breaking because I reported it very shortly after it became known. It seems it is 10 years at 50 Million a year and whatever the hell guaranteed mechanisms are it would likely lead to 477 million of the 503 million being guaranteed. Don't get injured Patrick.
But everyone knew Patrick was going to get paid so that is why I said it is expected but anyway, if they do not want Patrick to get injured then the offensive line needs to step up
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 9:19 am
by StumpHunter
RandyMoss84 wrote: βWed Jul 08, 2020 8:50 am
VikingsVictorious wrote: βWed Jul 08, 2020 1:03 am
Being expected or not it's still HUGE news and it is breaking because I reported it very shortly after it became known. It seems it is 10 years at 50 Million a year and whatever the hell guaranteed mechanisms are it would likely lead to 477 million of the 503 million being guaranteed. Don't get injured Patrick.
But everyone knew Patrick was going to get paid so that is why I said it is expected but anyway, if they do not want Patrick to get injured then the offensive line needs to step up
I certainly wasn't expecting ten years and was thinking a 5 year deal similar to Wilson's. The Chiefs really were forward thinking with this deal, and there is a good chance Mahomes is never the highest paid QB in any given year, and will be making 45 million a year in 2025 while other teams are paying lesser QBs 50 million per year. Maybe we should have expected it though, since I believe Reid gave McNabb a 12 year extension.
Very few star QBs get hurt to the point their careers are ended. More often they just miss most of a year and are back the following season. In those cases the 10 year versus the typical 5 doesn't really come into play. If somehow he does have a career ending injury, KC is screwed no matter how much they owe Mahomes.
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:22 am
by VikingsVictorious
StumpHunter wrote: βWed Jul 08, 2020 9:19 am
RandyMoss84 wrote: βWed Jul 08, 2020 8:50 am
But everyone knew Patrick was going to get paid so that is why I said it is expected but anyway, if they do not want Patrick to get injured then the offensive line needs to step up
I certainly wasn't expecting ten years and was thinking a 5 year deal similar to Wilson's. The Chiefs really were forward thinking with this deal, and there is a good chance Mahomes is never the highest paid QB in any given year, and will be making 45 million a year in 2025 while other teams are paying lesser QBs 50 million per year. Maybe we should have expected it though, since I believe Reid gave McNabb a 12 year extension.
Very few star QBs get hurt to the point their careers are ended. More often they just miss most of a year and are back the following season. In those cases the 10 year versus the typical 5 doesn't really come into play. If somehow he does have a career ending injury, KC is screwed no matter how much they owe Mahomes.
But they would be screwed on a level possibly never seen before.

Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2020 11:02 am
by StumpHunter
VikingsVictorious wrote: βWed Jul 08, 2020 10:22 am
StumpHunter wrote: βWed Jul 08, 2020 9:19 am
I certainly wasn't expecting ten years and was thinking a 5 year deal similar to Wilson's. The Chiefs really were forward thinking with this deal, and there is a good chance Mahomes is never the highest paid QB in any given year, and will be making 45 million a year in 2025 while other teams are paying lesser QBs 50 million per year. Maybe we should have expected it though, since I believe Reid gave McNabb a 12 year extension.
Very few star QBs get hurt to the point their careers are ended. More often they just miss most of a year and are back the following season. In those cases the 10 year versus the typical 5 doesn't really come into play. If somehow he does have a career ending injury, KC is screwed no matter how much they owe Mahomes.
But they would be screwed on a level possibly never seen before.
I wonder how that injury guarantee works and if it goes down every year he is healthy? If he gets a career ending injury next year, would that 170 or so million guaranteed on injury be spread out over the entirety of the contract? 10 years of paying 17 million to a QB who isn't on the roster would suck.
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 am
by VikingsVictorious
Did you all realize the Vikings have actually signed a draft pick?
Nate Stanley 7th round QB.
Since Rookies are supposed to report to camp Tuesday do we all agree it might be a good idea to start signing some of them?
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 12:23 pm
by RandyMoss84
VikingsVictorious wrote: βSun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 am
Did you all realize the Vikings have actually signed a draft pick?
Nate Stanley 7th round QB.
Since Rookies are supposed to report to camp Tuesday do we all agree it might be a good idea to start signing some of them?
Yeah, I knew that last week
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 4:19 pm
by S197
VikingsVictorious wrote: βSun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 am
Did you all realize the Vikings have actually signed a draft pick?
Nate Stanley 7th round QB.
Since Rookies are supposed to report to camp Tuesday do we all agree it might be a good idea to start signing some of them?
I'm sure some are reluctant due to the uncertainties and the NFL dragging its feet with safety protocols. There's also the uncertainty of the season, which is looking more and more like it will be played without fans if at all. The Vikings are offering season ticket holders the option to opt out of the 2020 season with a full refund.
Re: 2020 Offseason News Thread (Signings, Coaching changes, etc.)
Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 5:15 pm
by VikingsVictorious
S197 wrote: βTue Jul 21, 2020 4:19 pm
VikingsVictorious wrote: βSun Jul 19, 2020 9:28 am
Did you all realize the Vikings have actually signed a draft pick?
Nate Stanley 7th round QB.
Since Rookies are supposed to report to camp Tuesday do we all agree it might be a good idea to start signing some of them?
I'm sure some are reluctant due to the uncertainties and the NFL dragging its feet with safety protocols. There's also the uncertainty of the season, which is looking more and more like it will be played without fans if at all. The Vikings are offering season ticket holders the option to opt out of the 2020 season with a full refund.
Anything less would be a PR nightmare.