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Mothman wrote: Look at it this way: a team with two starting caliber QBs actually has more stability than a team with one. We've seen far too often what happens when you have the latter situation. You get Joe Webb starting a playoff game or yesterday's expensive trade. If Bradford plays well enough to be the starter next year and Bridgewater recovers sufficiently to get equal consideration, that will be nothing but good news for the Vikings, the best QB situation they've had in a long time.

The stability provided by drafting a QB in the first round, declaring him the starter and not putting anyone who can seriously compete for the job behind him only lasts as long as the starter is healthy.

I completely agree, Jim. Now where's my drink?

Texas Vike wrote: I completely agree, Jim. Now where's my drink?

Here you go...

if he stays healthy i have a really good feeling about this season. he has never played on a team even close to as good as this one.

I heard a report that said they are trying to get him in by week two for GB with a simple language system closer to what philly
used ? time will tell

Mothman wrote: Look at it this way: a team with two starting caliber QBs actually has more stability than a team with one. We've seen far too often what happens when you have the latter situation. You get Joe Webb starting a playoff game or yesterday's expensive trade. If Bradford plays well enough to be the starter next year and Bridgewater recovers sufficiently to get equal consideration, that will be nothing but good news for the Vikings, the best QB situation they've had in a long time.

The stability provided by drafting a QB in the first round, declaring him the starter and not putting anyone who can seriously compete for the job behind him only lasts as long as the starter is healthy.

The only potential issue I see for 2017 is financial.

If Bradford is on the roster in 2017, he's a $17 million cap hit. Combine that with AP's $18 million, and the Vikes have $35 million in cap space tied up between a 32-year-old running back and a quarterback who could potentially be the backup.

Of course, if Bridgewater makes great progress, and it's obvious by March that he's going to make it back, the Vikings could simply release Bradford. But if not, or if Bradford has a great season, that complicates things financially.

Guess we have to trust that Spielman has a plan.

Mothman wrote: Look at it this way: a team with two starting caliber QBs actually has more stability than a team with one. We've seen far too often what happens when you have the latter situation. You get Joe Webb starting a playoff game or yesterday's expensive trade. If Bradford plays well enough to be the starter next year and Bridgewater recovers sufficiently to get equal consideration, that will be nothing but good news for the Vikings, the best QB situation they've had in a long time.

The stability provided by drafting a QB in the first round, declaring him the starter and not putting anyone who can seriously compete for the job behind him only lasts as long as the starter is healthy.

What about the financials, Jim? I can't imagine this duo together past 2017.

Edit: looks like Kapp beat me to it

who cares about 2017 its 2016? everyone has written bradford off already and the reality is teddy may return; but i doubt his health will ever be the same.

J. Kapp 11 wrote: The only potential issue I see for 2017 is financial.

If Bradford is on the roster in 2017, he's a $17 million cap hit. Combine that with AP's $18 million, and the Vikes have $35 million in cap space tied up between a 32-year-old running back and a quarterback who could potentially be the backup.

Of course, if Bridgewater makes great progress, and it's obvious by March that he's going to make it back, the Vikings could simply release Bradford. But if not, or if Bradford has a great season, that complicates things financially.

Guess we have to trust that Spielman has a plan.

I think they are hoping they can restructure both of them.

dead_poet wrote:What about the financials, Jim? I can't imagine this duo together past 2017.

Edit: looks like Kapp beat me to it

I actually posted a link to an article Ben Goessling wrote about that too. Here it is again:

http://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-viki ... it-vikings

I think the financials can be dealt with as needed. Peterson's contract could be revisited as soon as this coming offseason. If not in 2017 then almost certainly before the 2018 season begins. There's a lot of money tied up in the OL right now and that could change too. In terms of the QBs, the two are affordable through next season. They may face a tough choice when it comes to picking up Bridgewater's 5th year option next May but if there's too much uncertainty at that point to make the financial commitment required, they can always see how his recovery and the 2017 season plays out and then negotiate with him after the 2017 season.

If Bradford shines this year, they could extend his contract, thus spreading the cap hit out. They could also wait to see how he performs in '17 and deal with him after that season. It all seems rather fluid to me. I agree that financially speaking, it would be tough to keep them together after 2017 but that's why I have the philosophy about drafting and developing QBs that I do. In addition to working with Bradford and helping Teddy rehab, they need to make sure they're developing another QB who can be their primary backup in '18, if not next year. They shouldn't bring Hill back. Evaluating Heinicke and Stave will be important this year.

mosscarter wrote:if he stays healthy i have a really good feeling about this season. he has never played on a team even close to as good as this one.

I'm very familiar with him as a former Rams fan and I am excited to watch him as a Vike. If he is protected he can throw a pretty ball (that's why he was a number one pick). He has never had a team around him like the Vikings. I think he can be very good and potentially cause a QB controversy with TB next year.

I watched a bunch of Bradford from his best three years and this is where I stand

Bradford is nowhere near the escape artist that teddy is.

I see pitches to Adrian Peterson more this year(or pulling guard blocks)

Bradford is a true pocket passer and throws a much more accurate ball than Teddy.

Bradford can throw across his body with acceptable risk.

Bradford can hit receivers on the run without them stopping and waiting for the ball.

Bradford will need a collapsing pocket to be effective

We will need screen passes to keep pressure off Bradford

Bradford does not handle A gap blitzes well.

Not sure if you guys saw this or not, but here is this:

In 2015 Sam Bradford set the Eagles franchise record for completion percentage, despite the fact that his receivers led the league in drop rate.

Go to packerrats or any other Packers message boards and read what they are saying.... it's fricken hilarious! They all seem to think this trade is the 2nd worst in history next to walker from Dallas of course.

But they ALL say how we are going to be complete garbage this year and they are going to win the Superbowl.


It's super funny

Mothman wrote: I actually posted a link to an article Ben Goessling wrote about that too. Here it is again:

http://www.espn.com/blog/minnesota-viki ... it-vikings

I think the financials can be dealt with as needed. Peterson's contract could be revisited as soon as this coming offseason. If not in 2017 then almost certainly before the 2018 season begins. There's a lot of money tied up in the OL right now and that could change too. In terms of the QBs, the two are affordable through next season. They may face a tough choice when it comes to picking up Bridgewater's 5th year option next May but if there's too much uncertainty at that point to make the financial commitment required, they can always see how his recovery and the 2017 season plays out and then negotiate with him after the 2017 season.

If Bradford shines this year, they could extend his contract, thus spreading the cap hit out. They could also wait to see how he performs in '17 and deal with him after that season. It all seems rather fluid to me. I agree that financially speaking, it would be tough to keep them together after 2017 but that's why I have the philosophy about drafting and developing QBs that I do. In addition to working with Bradford and helping Teddy rehab, they need to make sure they're developing another QB who can be their primary backup in '18, if not next year. They shouldn't bring Hill back. Evaluating Heinicke and Stave will be important this year.

What caught my eye, is the fact there is a lot of money tied up by the OL atm. Really? They getting 20 cents on the dollar return. Kalil accounting.for much of that. He should just yell, THEY COMING every time the ball is snapped.

PurpleHalo wrote: What caught my eye, is the fact there is a lot of money tied up by the OL atm. Really? They getting 20 cents on the dollar return. Kalil accounting.for much of that. He should just yell, THEY COMING every time the ball is snapped.

Maybe he does yell that. I really don't get all the O line hate. It's a new season, you haven't even seen the new line yet. Seems like people fixate on previous problems so they have something to constantly to complain about.

I for one am super.pumped about this season and have high hopes for all facets of the Vikings.... Even the offensive line.