I find that quite encouraging.GQVikesFan wrote:Paul Allen from KFAN reported on the radio that Adrian changed his Twitter pic/background to purple and gold.
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therefore, I shall endeavor to acquire some self-control."
therefore, I shall endeavor to acquire some self-control."
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Yes, it is! When did he change it?PsyDanny wrote: I find that quite encouraging.
It's time to take back what was rightfully ours in '98....and '09!!
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Or he could prove to be a complete non-factor given the seriousness of the injury.Mothman wrote:
Put it this way: Philly trades a highly productive and proven RB that does everything well and should continue to do everything well for the next several years for a LB coming off a major knee injury and a single season. Philly did this straight up - no additional picks thrown into the mix. This comes on the heels of what appears to be a growing glut of established RBs hitting the market or that appear about to hit the market like Pierre Thomas and DeMarco Murray. Like it or not, the market is being set for FA running backs and it's not favorable at all for getting much out of a trade even if AD does restructure.
On the positive side, AD sees what is happening as well, and I would guess it has to give him some pause, especially if he has certain teams in mind as possible destinations. I thought he might have to come down to ~6 million a year for Spielman to swing a deal acceptable to all. Now I'm leaning towards ~4 million, and that might just move him straight up for another player or a mid-round pick.
The market looks like it will force sense into all sides here. Not surprised if we start hearing AD's stance soften and more positive spin from the Vikings side as well.
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VikingLord wrote: Or he could prove to be a complete non-factor given the seriousness of the injury.
He could... but that hasn't happened yet so at the moment, it's a pretty big exaggeration to call it a trade for "nothing".
That's possible... a lot may depend on how important the money is to Peterson in the big picture. It may also depend on what the free agent backs are seeking in compensation, how potential suitors for Peterson see him fitting with their team, etc. I'm still not convinced Murray is going to actually hit the market and there's no comparison between Peterson and Thomas.Put it this way: Philly trades a highly productive and proven RB that does everything well and should continue to do everything well for the next several years for a LB coming off a major knee injury and a single season. Philly did this straight up - no additional picks thrown into the mix. This comes on the heels of what appears to be a growing glut of established RBs hitting the market or that appear about to hit the market like Pierre Thomas and DeMarco Murray. Like it or not, the market is being set for FA running backs and it's not favorable at all for getting much out of a trade even if AD does restructure.
On the positive side, AD sees what is happening as well, and I would guess it has to give him some pause, especially if he has certain teams in mind as possible destinations. I thought he might have to come down to ~6 million a year for Spielman to swing a deal acceptable to all. Now I'm leaning towards ~4 million, and that might just move him straight up for another player or a mid-round pick.
The market looks like it will force sense into all sides here. Not surprised if we start hearing AD's stance soften and more positive spin from the Vikings side as well.
Anyway, your points are well taken. I just think there are a LOT of factors in play... and there were several in play in the McCoy/Alonso trade too (like McCoy's cap hit and Alonso's history with Kelly).
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I am so over Peterson ... I really hope we can dump in Jacksonville next year
Let him and Frazier sit in the FL sun together
Let him and Frazier sit in the FL sun together
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Ahh c'mon....when they announce his name at this years home opener people will be in tears, and when he breaks his first big run beer will be spilled in large quantities.jackal wrote:I am so over Peterson ... I really hope we can dump in Jacksonville next year
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Nope I won't root for him ever again... the guy ignorant and spoiled person.. use to be one of my favorite Vikings tooAhh c'mon....when they announce his name at this years home opener people will be in tears, and when he breaks his first big run beer will be spilled in large quantities.
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If he comes back and does right by us, I'll forgive him.jackal wrote: Nope I won't root for him ever again... the guy ignorant and spoiled person.. use to be one of my favorite Vikings too
It's time to take back what was rightfully ours in '98....and '09!!
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The guy goes around and knocks up women and then leaves to the wolves ...If he comes back and does right by us, I'll forgive him.
One Kid got Killed,(By another man)
A.P. beat one of them
and then after making millions and millions, he should consider himself lucky he even gets
another chance, says he wants to play somewhere else. Sorry I am done with this piece of trash IMO.
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For what it's worth, Sid Hartman thinks AD will play for the Vikings as long as his wife is on board.
http://www.startribune.com/video/295273801.html#hpmfv
http://www.startribune.com/video/295273801.html#hpmfv
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Another interesting perspective on the AD situation:
http://espn.go.com/blog/minnesota-vikin ... to-vikingsOnline sports book Bovada released odds on Thursday for where Peterson will be for Week 1 of the 2015 NFL season, and the Vikings are still the favorite to have Peterson on their roster. Bovada gives them 5-6 odds of having Peterson, with the Dallas Cowboys in second at 9-4. The Indianapolis Colts have 5-1 odds, the Arizona Cardinals are at 9-1, and the San Diego Chargers and Tampa Bay Buccaneers are at 10-1.
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Interesting, but hard to take it seriously when he does not know how old AD is AND says "if he signs". Hmm, he is already signed.Texas Vike wrote:For what it's worth, Sid Hartman thinks AD will play for the Vikings as long as his wife is on board.
http://www.startribune.com/video/295273801.html#hpmfv
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I don't think I will forget he turned on the organization, but I will still root for him if he is a Viking. I certainly will never buy another Peterson jersey as he will never again be one of my favorite players on the team.denburch wrote: If he comes back and does right by us, I'll forgive him.
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Exactly. Poor Sid has seen his better days, but he often has a pretty good read on where the organization is at.PsyDanny wrote: Interesting, but hard to take it seriously when he does not know how old AD is AND says "if he signs". Hmm, he is already signed.
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The real question is this. Does Peterson make a difference. Not sure, but I played with some numbers to see if I could find a trend in how often he runs and the Vikings score/wins. I came up with the following. Now I am not saying he is the only reason for the scores or the wins.
Not sure how you would equate it to wins.
When Adrian plays and has at least:
20 carries, the Vikings average score is 25.1 points per game. .586 win percentage.
15-19 carries, they average 21.3 points per game. .267 win percentage.
14 or less times a game the Vikings average 15.4 points per game. .227 win percentage.
The average score in games he did not play, is 20.4 points per game, with a .348 win percentage.
So you tell me, does he matter?
BTW, In the 15 games he did not play in this past year, I noticed a trend. If you break those 15 games up into 5 game blocks:
1st 5 games they scored 14 points per game.
2nd 5 games they scored 19.6 points per game.
3rd 5 games they scored 24.6 points per game.
Not sure how you would equate it to wins.
When Adrian plays and has at least:
20 carries, the Vikings average score is 25.1 points per game. .586 win percentage.
15-19 carries, they average 21.3 points per game. .267 win percentage.
14 or less times a game the Vikings average 15.4 points per game. .227 win percentage.
The average score in games he did not play, is 20.4 points per game, with a .348 win percentage.
So you tell me, does he matter?
BTW, In the 15 games he did not play in this past year, I noticed a trend. If you break those 15 games up into 5 game blocks:
1st 5 games they scored 14 points per game.
2nd 5 games they scored 19.6 points per game.
3rd 5 games they scored 24.6 points per game.
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