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dead_poet wrote:Don't sweat it, guys. Schiano thinks Teddy is like Montana. We're good.
Ex-Bucs coach Greg Schiano: Teddy Bridgewater is a young Joe Montana
More here: http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-foo ... oe-montana
I wasn't comparing Palmer to Bridgewater. I made that crystal clear. The point was to illustrate that a QB can still be very productive on a team that's playing really good defense and running the ball as much as the Vikings do. Those aren't factors that limit or prohibit much better production from a passing game.IrishViking wrote:I mean no offense but by admitting the Arizona comparison is "apples and Oranges" doesn't mean I am not going to accept it on principle. Palmer vs Bridgewater is an absurd comparison and If teddy had as many years under his belt as Carson I'd want him gone.
Mothman wrote: I wish mine did. At this point, my mind is just turning toward therapy.
I dont remember you saying this with Ponder growing up as a Viking. Why SMH for Teddy? Even his own coaches say hes doing whats asked of him, and hope he progresses. WTH else do you want him to do with a little more then a year under his belt, and just turning 23? Want me to list some good QBs that didnt look like HoF player in their first 2 years? Give it a rest. Almost every one of your post include posting/writing about Teddy being sub par. I dont think anyone has crowned him the new Vikings QB. He hasnt been here long enough to happen! The coaches have said recently, they want Teddy to open things up, I think he will. If his WR's can get open. Maybe Kyle and Wallace can try to hang onto the balls tossed their way. kind of hard for a QB to try going to receivers that drop balls. Maybe he can throw to Diggs and hand off every play. Maybe the Oline learns to pass protect. Im just hoping we get a good QB that doesnt make mistakes, and improves every year, until he reaches his maximum ability. And then we go on a playoff run. In the meantime, I hope the Vikes front office has a backup plan. Because they havent done a good job with finding QBs in a long long time.Mothman wrote: Maybe... but I think that would depend on the situation. I fully grasp the risk of asking him to be more aggressive but again, I don't think anyone is asking him him to press or play recklessly.
It's professional football. He needs to be able to play from the pocket as a dropback passer. He needs to be able to read a defense and make more plays down the field and learning to do so, mistakes and all, is a necessary part of his development. If he just stays in "safe mode", he's basically a middling backup quarterback in starter's shoes.
It absolutely amazes me that suggesting one of the least productive passers in the league needs to be more productive causes such intense consternation among Vikings fans. What, exactly, is unfair about expecting an NFL QB to be able to play under center, throw downfield, pass for more than 12-14 TDs in a season, etc.? His coaches clearly want him to do more, what's wrong with us wanting it too?
Great article! Thanks for sharing...akvikingsfan wrote:
I have always thought that certain QB's made small plays - let's say, like the Asiata flip that got us out of the shadow of our own goal or could have gotten a first down - that subtly changed the outcome of the game. I always say I liked Brad Johnson (2008 version with a reasonably strong arm) over Culpepper, because he was amazingly good at killing games by converting first downs when the Vikes had the lead and the ball with only a few minutes left.IrishViking wrote:I mean no offense but by admitting the Arizona comparison is "apples and Oranges" doesn't mean I am not going to accept it on principle. Palmer vs Bridgewater is an absurd comparison and If teddy had as many years under his belt as Carson I'd want him gone.
I'm sorry to hear that you don't remember it but I did, in fact, talk about the need for him to improve... many times. I don't have a double standard on this subject. Young QBs take time to develop. It's a process and I understand that. I simply want to see the same things from Bridgewater that I wanted to see from Ponder: growth, development and good production along the way.PurpleKoolaid wrote:I dont remember you saying this with Ponder growing up as a Viking.
I think I've made that abundantly clear. All you have to do is read...WTH else do you want him to do with a little more then a year under his belt, and just turning 23?
Its not going to matter. Im am betting if/when Teddy starts throwing for 250+yards 2 INTS, 2 TDs, and we get away from the ground attack thats making us a powerhouse in the NFC, there are 4-5 people that will just complain Teddy isnt doing enough. The coaches have a plan for Teddy. Doesnt happen overnight, and they dont want to ruin him, like our former #7 was ruined so early on before. But regardless, they better have a plan B. I have no idea if they think Heinekin (or whatever his name is) is the guy we play if Teddy isnt the guy. Or they are going to try for a mid round QB. They better have a plan B. Or we are in trouble. Shawn Hill isnt the answer to anything really.jackal wrote:I saw some comments comparing him to Ponder...
Bridgewater is the opposite IMO.. I don't care if he throws for 225 in his career..
He does not throw picks at horrible times...
He plays smart and looks down field...
He wins games and knows how to make plays when they count
Ponder did none of these IMO. Ponder did not learn over time. Ponder did not handle pressure.
If you want stats, go watch the Red Zone channel IMO..
Obviously I am just a lurker here. I enjoy reading your posts and I appreciate your insight as most others here do. Just getting confused why it seems that so many are upset that Teddy isn't elite RIGHT NOW. I am content to just wait and see and for now I will just enjoy the wins.Mothman wrote:It troubles me that you felt the need to post the comment I highlighted above.
Grashopa wrote: Obviously I am just a lurker here. I enjoy reading your posts and I appreciate your insight as most others here do. Just getting confused why it seems that so many are upset that Teddy isn't elite RIGHT NOW. I am content to just wait and see and for now I will just enjoy the wins.
IMO Ponder had one super big problem he could not handle the speed of the game IMO and stop looking down receivers ...Its not going to matter. Im am betting if/when Teddy starts throwing for 250+yards 2 INTS, 2 TDs, and we get away from the ground attack thats making us a powerhouse in the NFC, there are 4-5 people that will just complain Teddy isnt doing enough. The coaches have a plan for Teddy. Doesnt happen overnight, and they dont want to ruin him, like our former #7 was ruined so early on before. But regardless, they better have a plan B. I have no idea if they think Heinekin (or whatever his name is) is the guy we play if Teddy isnt the guy. Or they are going to try for a mid round QB. They better have a plan B. Or we are in trouble. Shawn Hill isnt the answer to anything really.
