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Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:20 pm
by Eli
dead_poet wrote:I'm still curious to learn what Zygi's commitment will be if forced into this.
Well, I think you can shave $67 million right off the top.
Ultimately, any money lost - in lost gate revenue, upgrade costs for TCF, operating expenses, and even long-term real estate earnings expected from Arden Hills - are going to be paid by Minnesota taxpayers.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:01 am
by HornedMessiah
I wonder if the league tries to talk the Wilfs into signing a year extension on the Dome in the hope that Arden Hills or another site can become more feasible next year.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:17 am
by purple guy
HornedMessiah wrote:I wonder if the league tries to talk the Wilfs into signing a year extension on the Dome in the hope that Arden Hills or another site can become more feasible next year.
Thats exactly what is going to happen.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:39 pm
by HardcoreVikesFan
Man, I am really staring to see where this is going. Persuaded into a one year feel good lease, then the same #### will happen next year. Just move the team, I feel that is what is going to happen in the end. The short sightedness is unbelievable.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 11:58 pm
by glg
No team has ever played three seasons at an alternative venue since the Super Bowl era began in 1966.
I don't see why the hell it would take
3 seasons. Bears did it in
1. Get the deal done now, take the rest of the year to get everything set, then start the day after the season is over. NFL can even "help" by giving a couple away games at the end of the season (of course, if that gets done, the Vikes will end up winning the division and getting a home game). If that's done, I don't see why it would require 3 seasons in TCF.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:26 am
by Eli
glg wrote:
I don't see why the hell it would take 3 seasons. Bears did it in 1.
They're not going to do it in one season (that would be about 19 months for demolition and construction), but you're right. You'd think it could be done in two. From the end of the 2012 season (Jan 2013) until the beginning of the 2015 season (Aug 2015) would be 31 months in which to get it done, and they'd miss only two seasons.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:39 am
by HornedMessiah
glg wrote:I don't see why the hell it would take 3 seasons. Bears did it in 1.
I think it was just Soldier Field renovations that displaced the Bears, not a new stadium being built.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:53 am
by glg
HornedMessiah wrote:
I think it was just Soldier Field renovations that displaced the Bears, not a new stadium being built.
Soldier was
not simple renovations. In some ways, what they did at Soldier may have been harder, because they built a new stadium while maintaining the colonnades/facade on the exterior.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 6:08 pm
by thatguy
glg wrote:
Soldier was not simple renovations. In some ways, what they did at Soldier may have been harder, because they built a new stadium while maintaining the colonnades/facade on the exterior.
They didn't have to tear down their entire stadium, ensure all the proper infrastructure was in place, and build an entirely new facility like the Vikes would have to do.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:06 pm
by mefford76
glg wrote:
Soldier was not simple renovations. In some ways, what they did at Soldier may have been harder, because they built a new stadium while maintaining the colonnades/facade on the exterior.
i was actually thinking the same thing, but maybe the dome aspect makes it a lot harder? i mean they can't be lying about it to us...
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:34 pm
by CalVike
http://www.twincities.com/ci_19852969?s ... ost_viewed
Lawmakers locked in electronic pull-tabs Monday night as the funding source they'll propose for a new Minnesota Vikings stadium, but they said they're still awaiting more information from Minneapolis and Ramsey County officials before settling on a site.
Some clarity, finally, from the State legislature on what mechanism they will propose to fund the State portion of the cost. Gambling and electronic pull-tabs. A small step forward.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 11:58 pm
by glg
thatguy wrote:
They didn't have to tear down their entire stadium, ensure all the proper infrastructure was in place, and build an entirely new facility like the Vikes would have to do.
YES THEY DID! Again, Soldier was
not renovated. They basically built a new stadium within the existing facade (which, BTW, they had to be very careful about not destroying in the process).
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:11 am
by HornedMessiah
I'll take your word on it, seeing as your a Chicagoan.
I did read an article recently that said it was renovation, so bad reporter, whoever that was.
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 12:15 am
by CalVike
glg wrote:YES THEY DID! Again, Soldier was not renovated. They basically built a new stadium within the existing facade (which, BTW, they had to be very careful about not destroying in the process).
http://www.kennyconstruction.com/groups ... dier-field
Re: Stadium thread
Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2012 11:55 am
by thatguy
glg wrote:
YES THEY DID! Again, Soldier was not renovated. They basically built a new stadium within the existing facade (which, BTW, they had to be very careful about not destroying in the process).
I understand that. But with the Dome site, don't you have to account for the time of destroying the whole thing, cleaning it up, etc. etc.?