Vikings QB Kellen Mond test positive for COVID; three QBs including Kirk Cousins expected to miss practice

[vikeinmontana]

If their vaccinated than statistically probably none.

They are not

I assume they are unable to be? In that case if I were them I’d hunker down at home and wouldn’t hang out in huge settings over the holidays.

Hope they stay safe!

[VikingsVictorious]

I do not believe Kirk thinks God doesn't want him to get the vaccine as his religion doesn't prohibit them. Most likely he doesn't trust the people in power at the moment.

I think you are correct Stump. I also attend an independent evangelical church and the position of the church is that it’s a personal decision. They don’t encourage or discourage it.

I'm an independent evangelical and I wish they encouraged getting the vaccine.

[VikingsVictorious]

I don't know about Mond, but Cousins is so diligent with the protocols that I really doubt he gets COVID. He probably won't come within six feet of any family member so I would consider the chances of him infecting an elderly family member extremely low.

Such a funny thing to say. I’m sorry. I won’t be rude. But this literally made me laugh.

It's OK laughter is good.

[Pondering Her Percy]

I dont see near the people calling Thielen, Barr or Smith selfish. Yes, like you said the QB usually takes more heat and we can win without those other guys. But did anyone think the Vikings could win with Case Keenum when he had to come in? No. I dont count any of that out. Sure our chances "lessen". But teams win all the time with backup QBs. If the Vikings defense is back up to par this year, there's no doubt they can still win without Cousins. You hope it's just a game if anything with Cousins and not multiple games. But if Cousins has to miss one game and Jake Browning comes in, if we game plan and play our cards right, I think they could 100% win a game with Jake Browning.

But its 100% more ammo for the haters regarding Cousins. Maybe I brush all of this off a lot easier because I'm not vaccinated, I dont know. But I know myself along with many others, the reasons people arent getting it are mostly due to having no clue what the long term effects are, if any. Along with fertility/effects on future children. Even religion. Regardless, if Cousins, Thielen, Smith or whoever else for that matter dont want to get it, then they dont want to get it. I dont look at that as "selfish" at all. Everyone's number one priority in life should be your family and overall well-being. If you dont believe this is the best/safest route, then that's your opinion. Not everyone gets the flu shot, they arent called selfish.

I mean think about who we're talking about here. Especially two of these players. Harrison Smith and Adam Thielen. Prior to the vaccination crap, if I asked you to name the two LEAST selfish players on this entire team. My guess is, these are the two guys you would name. So the word selfish shouldnt even be mentioned with players/people and this vaccine. It's simply personal choice. Just like getting the flu vaccine is personal choice. I 10000% understand if these guys arent saying "hey let me inject this vaccine into my body when I have no idea what the long term effects are on myself or my future children JUST so I can ease everyone elses mind and please them".

Like I said, we're talking about the two most unselfish players on this team and arguably in the entire league in Smith and Thielen. This is exactly why I think the heat Cousins took over it, especially with the media, is ridiculous.

Don't hate Cousins. Just want him off the team.

Cousins is getting more grief because he made fun of people wearing masks. He's getting grief because he was quoted "If I die, I die" and then promoted a hospital that would take care of him if he did get covid (which since dropped him from ads). He's getting grief because he was brought to this team to get over the hump, He's getting grief his team has the lowest vaccinated rate in the league.

He's never missed a practice, ever. Now he's missed 5. Doesn't that say something? Maybe he should get vaccinated? No, he'd rather put himself in a plexiglass box. He's Gambling. Gambling Zimmer's job, the team's success. The team invested millions , He has a responsibility to the organization.

His team having the lowest vaccination rate has nothing to do with him specifically. If cousins gets the vaccine tomorrow, who’s taking the grief then? Smith? Thielen? Highly highly doubtful. And the whole if I die quote I’m pretty sure was from quite a while back but I could be wrong.

Regardless that is NOT why he’s getting grief. He’s getting grief mostly because he’s Kirk Cousins and he’s the general whipping boy amongst fans. Answer me this…. If Adam Thielen or Harrison smith did exactly what you said cousins did above, would they be taking the heat like cousins is? The answer is NO. There’s not even any arguing against that. Taking a little grief here and there is one thing, but getting the finger pointed at you and taking the heat he has, it’s simply because he’s Kirk cousins. He takes the heat for just about anything that goes wrong with this team. It was an easy bitc# fest when he didn’t get vaccinated. People that don’t even watch football could’ve told you the cousins finger pointing was coming. It’s one more thing for the cousins haters to complain about. Hate him or not, he shouldn’t take anymore heat for it than Thielen or smith. Is there some rule out there that says QBs should get the vaccine before anyone because they are QBs and such an important position? No.

Michael Pierce opted out last year and then came out and said he wished he never did and could’ve still easily played. That’s a guy we desperately needed last year. Has anyone gave him grief? No. We respected his decisions. No athlete should be given crap over this. They are going to do what they think is best for them and their family and you simply have to respect their stance on it. It’s not your call or anyone else’s for that matter.

Again, I get why he hasn’t gotten it. I haven’t either. You can say what you want about medical professionals but bottom line is, this vaccine hasn’t been around long enough to even know what the hell the effects are and what the effects are on newborns and so on. And now this delta variant can’t even be stopped with the normal vaccine. Thousands of people that ARE vaccinated are still getting this delta variant. I’m not some anti vax guy either. I get the flu shot but the flu shot has also been around for a long time and medical professionals KNOW what it entails. At this point, they don’t know a damn thing regarding long term with this vaccine. It’s all a guessing game. My wife and I are trying to have another baby. And they say “it doesn’t effect fertility”. Okay? But do we have any clue if it effects the baby? Most of the woman that got pregnant way back when the vaccine first came out haven’t even had their babies yet so how does anyone know? Again, guessing game.

I’m not gonna go on any longer if a tangent about it but it’s simply where I stand. I respect cousins decision for not getting it just as much as I would respect Justin jeffersons for getting it. But it’s a weak argument for the cousins haters. Trust me when I say this, he could’ve gotten the vaccine day 1 and there would still be PLENTY of complaining about him. This just added fuel to the fire is all. More ammo in the bag for guys to complain about. Nobody says a word about Thielen and harrison. When Thielen actually missed a game last year for covid related reasons. They didn’t get hounded by the media. They aren’t the whipping boys. Kirk cousins is and always will be

[chicagopurple]

People with no medical training need to stop posting about medical issues. It is completely untrue to suggest that our current vaccines do not protect you from the delta variant. In fact, if you ARE immunized, your chance of dying from delta variant is 1 in 100,000.....or 00.001%.....so please dont spout falsehoods and misdirect people. Get your damn vaccine. And we have an immense amount of data on both the vaccine and the disease collected world wide from all civilized nations....the bottom line.....the disease is killing millions of people young and old, the average victim in the hospital now is in their 40's, NOT old. No One is dying from this vaccine, just the poor fools who are making bad choices and not immunizing.

[Thaumaturgist]

If Adam Thielen or Harrison smith did exactly what you said cousins did above, would they be taking the heat like cousins is? The answer is NO.

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When Thielen actually missed a game last year for covid related reasons. They didn’t get hounded by the media. They aren’t the whipping boys. Kirk cousins is and always will be

The situation from last year has changed. The vaccine wasn't available last year. If he misses games this year, and isn't vaccinated, then yes, I would predict that he WILL get some grief by the media and fans.

And yes, being a QB gets you higher scrutiny, fair or not... The QB touches the ball every offensive play.

[vikeinmontana]

People with no medical training need to stop posting about medical issues. It is completely untrue to suggest that our current vaccines do not protect you from the delta variant. In fact, if you ARE immunized, your chance of dying from delta variant is 1 in 100,000.....or 00.001%.....so please dont spout falsehoods and misdirect people. Get your damn vaccine. And we have an immense amount of data on both the vaccine and the disease collected world wide from all civilized nations....the bottom line.....the disease is killing millions of people young and old, the average victim in the hospital now is in their 40's, NOT old. No One is dying from this vaccine, just the poor fools who are making bad choices and not immunizing.

Not that I disagree with your take, but that first sentence makes me laugh. Then we shouldn't post about the Vikings because we've never played in the NFL. And better not post about the coaching we've never been a head coach in the NFL. Can you imagine if people weren't allowed to talk about politics unless they were politicians?! I'd actually love that.

I understand where you are coming from, but it's always funny to me that this seems to be the ONE topic in the world that people aren't allowed to do their own research and make their own decisions regarding their bodies unless they have specific medical training. If only everything else in life worked that way. It'd likely make for a much happier place, although VERY boring.

[chicagopurple]

a google search in NOT research.....Unless you have decades of training in immunology, virology, pharmacology, physiology, statistics etc etc. then you are , honestly, unable to really make a sound decision. It is absurd. Its like saying if you go do some google searches , you can go fly a Jet Airliner....Your United pilot has about 2-3 yrs of training. Every MD has at least 11 years of much more complex training. Laymen have no business making public health decisions, yet , school boards full of parents with no medical knowledge are setting policy...its laughable but potentially deadly tom foolery. I can put it no more simply than the fact that this virus is immensely deadly, current science is not very effective at treating it....if you get it there is a high probablity of death and long term consequences. The vaccine is extremely well tolerated and every recorded side effect of the vaccine is a thousand fold worse if you actually get the virus. People who are not vaccinated area big part of the problem.....try being a part of the solution instead and get your vaccine....you will likely not just be saving your life but those of others you may kill by spreading disease. This whole nation needs to put on their Big Boy Panties and get the damn shot.

[vikeinmontana]

a google search in NOT research.....Unless you have decades of training in immunology, virology, pharmacology, physiology, statistics etc etc. then you are , honestly, unable to really make a sound decision. It is absurd. Its like saying if you go do some google searches , you can go fly a Jet Airliner....Your United pilot has about 2-3 yrs of training. Every MD has at least 11 years of much more complex training. Laymen have no business making public health decisions, yet , school boards full of parents with no medical knowledge are setting policy...its laughable but potentially deadly tom foolery. I can put it no more simply than the fact that this virus is immensely deadly, current science is not very effective at treating it....if you get it there is a high probablity of death and long term consequences. The vaccine is extremely well tolerated and every recorded side effect of the vaccine is a thousand fold worse if you actually get the virus. People who are not vaccinated area big part of the problem.....try being a part of the solution instead and get your vaccine....you will likely not just be saving your life but those of others you may kill by spreading disease. This whole nation needs to put on their Big Boy Panties and get the damn shot.

Again, I didn't dispute what you said. And never said anything about google searches. Just funny to me this is the one topic in the world you're not allowed to have an opinion unless you had decades of training. Like I said, I only WISH people followed this line of thinking when it came to their political opinions.

What is the current death rate these days? Has it went up dramatically with the new variant? I have no idea but I was under the impression the survival rate was in the high 90's, but I admit I have no idea.

[VikingsVictorious]

People with no medical training need to stop posting about medical issues. It is completely untrue to suggest that our current vaccines do not protect you from the delta variant. In fact, if you ARE immunized, your chance of dying from delta variant is 1 in 100,000.....or 00.001%.....so please dont spout falsehoods and misdirect people. Get your damn vaccine. And we have an immense amount of data on both the vaccine and the disease collected world wide from all civilized nations....the bottom line.....the disease is killing millions of people young and old, the average victim in the hospital now is in their 40's, NOT old. No One is dying from this vaccine, just the poor fools who are making bad choices and not immunizing.

Preach it brother. Amen.

[VikingsVictorious]

If Adam Thielen or Harrison smith did exactly what you said cousins did above, would they be taking the heat like cousins is? The answer is NO.

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When Thielen actually missed a game last year for covid related reasons. They didn’t get hounded by the media. They aren’t the whipping boys. Kirk cousins is and always will be

The situation from last year has changed. The vaccine wasn't available last year. If he misses games this year, and isn't vaccinated, then yes, I would predict that he WILL get some grief by the media and fans.

And yes, being a QB gets you higher scrutiny, fair or not... The QB touches the ball every offensive play.

Yes the QB is more scrutinized, but for some goofy reason people have an irrational disdain for Kirk. He's always courteous to everybody no matter how much they hound him and he almost always plays well for our Vikings.

[chicagopurple]

I think the bottom line is that Kirk represents a huge investment and we see little in return in terms of being a contender. You cant fault him for getting an epic contract, that is what he is supposed to try for. The real frustration is with the Vikes Management which has floundered for 2 decades.

[VikingsVictorious]

I think the bottom line is that Kirk represents a huge investment and we see little in return in terms of being a contender. You cant fault him for getting an epic contract, that is what he is supposed to try for. The real frustration is with the Vikes Management which has floundered for 2 decades.

While having a better record than most teams in the NFL over that span.

[StumpHunter]

I think the bottom line is that Kirk represents a huge investment and we see little in return in terms of being a contender. You cant fault him for getting an epic contract, that is what he is supposed to try for. The real frustration is with the Vikes Management which has floundered for 2 decades.

While having a better record than most teams in the NFL over that span.

And 3 playoff wins.

[VikingsVictorious]

While having a better record than most teams in the NFL over that span.

And 3 playoff wins.

Yep 3 playoff wins. Do bye's count as wins? then 5.