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tmscr wrote: Just like every GM who passed on Russel Wilson..

What does Wilson have to do with any of this? He wasn't in the same draft as Ponder.

MelanieMFunk wrote: And that gets us...what exactly?

A Super Bowl? Deep playoff runs?

MelanieMFunk wrote: And that gets us...what exactly?

At minimum, people stop wanting Cassel to be our starting qb next year.

yezzir wrote: A Super Bowl? Deep playoff runs?

So, fans expecting more and demanding more gets us that?

I guess fans SUCK then. It's not the Vikings at all; it's the FANS.

Purple Reign wrote: At minimum, people stop wanting Cassel to be our starting qb next year.

MelanieMFunk wrote: So, fans expecting more and demanding more gets us that?

I guess fans SUCK then. It's not the Vikings at all; it's the FANS.

Yes, that's totally what I'm saying. I suck as a fan.

Purple Reign wrote: At minimum, people stop wanting Cassel to be our starting qb next year.

Nope..I still want the best QB to play until a better one comes along.

Purple Reign wrote: What does Wilson have to do with any of this? He wasn't in the same draft as Ponder.

Drafting QBs is a total crapshoot. You're using hindsight. Obviously, people didn't like the Ponder decision when it happened, but was anyone sure Dalton and Kaepernick were going to work? You can't look back 3 years later and say what should have been done. Of course the vikings want a "great" QB. We all do. Let's see you break down the incoming QBs and accurately predict their NFL success. It isn't easy.

Purple Reign wrote: At minimum, people stop wanting Cassel to be our starting qb next year.

If he gives us the best chance to win, he should be the starter, should he not?

Oh. Maybe we want to play the "QB eval/draft pick" game again? We don't want to play the best players on our roster. I forgot.

If Cassel is the best QB on the roster (not that it is an ideal situation), he should start. I don't agree with not playing our best QB. I saw enough of that this year. For Vikings fans "not demanding enough and being too accepting", not playing our best players is beyond foolish.

yezzir wrote: Yes, that's totally what I'm saying. I suck as a fan.

Yeah. Just start demanding more. It'll work out.

Luckily none of the best players in the NFL ever have bad games. They aren't allowed, even if the entire team/coaches are ineffective...kind of like the Vikes/Carolina game. The Cassel props that started last Monday seem so long ago...

...wisdom

Webbfann wrote: Nope..I still want the best QB to play until a better one comes along.

Yep. Exactly. I'm not so in love with Cassel that I'd want him starting regardless. If he's the best on the roster, play the dude. If not, that's cool, too. Play whoever gives us the best chance to win. That's all. It's really that simple.

MelanieMFunk wrote: If he gives us the best chance to win, he should be the starter, should he not?

Oh. Maybe we want to play the "QB eval/draft pick" game again? We don't want to play the best players on our roster. I forgot.

If Cassel is the best QB on the roster (not that it is an ideal situation), he should start. I don't agree with not playing our best QB. I saw enough of that this year. For Vikings fans "not demanding enough and being too accepting", not playing our best players is beyond foolish.

Again, my opinion, but if Cassel is just marginally better than a rookie qb coming in, then I would rather start the rookie to give him some experience so he can be better than Cassel. It's not always black and white to just start your best players, especially at the qb position. Cassel isn't the future for the team and don't think he would lead us to the playoffs next year, so build for the future and give a rookie qb the experience to become a better qb that can take us to the playoffs and be a franchise qb. Of course, that also depends on how much potential the rookie would have. Just speculating.

MelanieMFunk wrote: Yep. Exactly. I'm not so in love with Cassel that I'd want him starting regardless. If he's the best on the roster, play the dude. If not, that's cool, too. Play whoever gives us the best chance to win. That's all. It's really that simple.

So you are saying the Patriots and the Cowboys should have stuck with Drew Bledsoe?

Yeah. Just start demanding more. It'll work out.

Yeah. Keep accepting below average QB play. It won't work out.