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If you're trying to make the Comparison between Patterson and Williamson, I'd say you need to rewatch the kid. Patterson will be a far better talent then Williamson ever was.

and ftr "catching" is a problem with a lot of the kids mentioned in the top of the draft. None of them that I have seen compare to Williamson's inability to catch.

@evansilva: Mike Mayock's updated WR rankings: 1) Codarrelle Patterson 2) Tavon Austin 3) Keenan Allen 4) DeAndre Hopkins 5) Robert Woods.

Demi wrote: An NFL front office watched Williamson and decided to draft him higher then Patterson will go. Same goes for plenty of guys. While in hindsight it's easy to say (well to be fair it was said at the time), there are still questions about Patterson, a lot more then I read about any of the other top receivers. There are some questions about all of them, but nothing as broad as what I'm reading about Patterson.
I didn't mean anyone directly compared him to Williamson. I just meant reading that specific scouting report it reads like what one would say of Williamson after he washed out of the NFL. And not sure I'd want to take a chance on a guy with that many question marks.

I think I'd take any of the top receivers over him in a heart beat!

mondry wrote:Out of all of um I'd prefer hopkins, he looks like the best WR to me and that's more important imo than the talent of patterson / austin. Too many guys breeze through college on talent and athleticism and that means they rarely develop the actual technique and skills of an NFL WR. Turns out in the NFL everyone's pretty talented so once that advantage goes away it's struggle time.

Crabtree is a good example, selected 10th overall his first few years would have many calling him a bust. He's improved though as a WR and so it's working out, but for every crabtree that finally gets it and works to be a WR, there's many who just never do.

dead_poet wrote:Aaron Dobson - WR - Player

According to CBS Sports draft analyst Dane Brugler, NFL scouts' opinions are "all over the board" on Marshall WR Aaron Dobson.

Dobson's range is considered anywhere from the first to the fourth round. Brugler suspects his likely draft position is somewhere in between. At 6-foot-3, 210 with 40 times in the 4.4s, Dobson is an intriguing size/speed prospect. According to STATS ICE, Dobson didn't drop a single pass last season, although he had a tendency to disappear in games.
Source: Dane Brugler on Twitter

mondry wrote:Out of all of um I'd prefer hopkins, he looks like the best WR to me and that's more important imo than the talent of patterson / austin. Too many guys breeze through college on talent and athleticism and that means they rarely develop the actual technique and skills of an NFL WR. Turns out in the NFL everyone's pretty talented so once that advantage goes away it's struggle time.

Crabtree is a good example, selected 10th overall his first few years would have many calling him a bust. He's improved though as a WR and so it's working out, but for every crabtree that finally gets it and works to be a WR, there's many who just never do.

mrc44 wrote: What are you talking about? Hopkins is 2 inches taller(6'1") and 25lbs heavier(214lbs). That is nowhere near the same so e as Harvin.

mrc44 wrote: What are you talking about? Hopkins is 2 inches taller(6'1") and 25lbs heavier(214lbs). That is nowhere near the same so e as Harvin.

mrc44 wrote: Not just the 2 inches, no. I'm simply saying your statement of him and Harvin being the same is not correct. And yes I believe 2 inches and 25 lbs makes a huge difference at a wr position. An as far as Harvin being twice as fast... Harvin ran a 4.41 an Hopkins ran a 4.51 so Harvin is definitely faster I will give you that. As far as being elusive, I don't really care. An outside receiver needs to be a fluid route runner, be able to seperate from a corner and have sure hands. But Harvin was not a good route runner from what we saw( could have just been role related?). Hopkins is one of the best route runners in the draft. That plus his size advantage is what makes him a better candidate for an outside WR position.

John_Viveiros wrote:The issue I have with WR's, especially in the first round, is that there aren't really safe picks at that position. Draft history is littered with guys who show major ability in college and just don't cut it in the pros. I was reading up on last year's draft, and kept coming across the names of players I had never heard of in the NFL - and who were pretty high choice WR's.

And the odd thing is... Jarius Wright ended up being one of the more productive WR's in the league, both in a season long sense (roughly #10) and in a per-game sense (#5), even though he was the 16th (by my count) WR chosen. And he had an offense that wasn't sending the ball his way as much as, say, the Packers offense would. Frankly, just having the same level of production for a full season next year will be very good for a third receiver, and in the lower range for what one would expect of a #2 guy (around what we can expect from our offense - QB play and focus on the run - I would say).

So I guess I'm letting myself off the "draft a WR in the first round" bandwagon. Maybe a guy (or two if we trade down) in the second round. I think there's better value and more need in letting the Austin/Allen/Patterson triangle pass us by and selecting a couple guys that are more likely to be solid five-year starters.