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I thought so too, but Lucy keeps pulling that football out.RandyMoss84 wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:43 pmYeah but it is weird because I thought the run defense is going to be their strength but I guess notThaumaturgist wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:39 pm
Yea, but they gave up 180+ on the ground, and 30+ on a key draw play. Unexcusable on a pro team.
It boils down to pis# poor coaching. Iām baffled this guy has a job still.RandyMoss84 wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:43 pmYeah but it is weird because I thought the run defense is going to be their strength but I guess notThaumaturgist wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:39 pm
Yea, but they gave up 180+ on the ground, and 30+ on a key draw play. Unexcusable on a pro team.
I am not because Wilfs loves ZimmerPondering Her Percy wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:45 pmIt boils down to pis# poor coaching. Iām baffled this guy has a job stillRandyMoss84 wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:43 pm
Yeah but it is weird because I thought the run defense is going to be their strength but I guess not
Especially relevant in this game where you allocated free agent money to stopping the run vs. oline. The head coach and gm are responsible.RandyMoss84 wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:43 pmYeah but it is weird because I thought the run defense is going to be their strength but I guess notThaumaturgist wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:39 pm
Yea, but they gave up 180+ on the ground, and 30+ on a key draw play. Unexcusable on a pro team.
I hope Vikings does not make the playoffs, it would give me a glimmer of hope that Zimmer and Speilman will be firedVikingLord wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:53 pm The Browns have a really solid defense. They controlled the line of scrimmage all game, shutting down running lanes and getting pressure on Cousins.
The lack of production from the running game put the offense into more 2nd and 3rd-and-longs, and the resultant consistent pressure on Cousins made the Vikings offense look incredibly feeble. Granted, great defensive line play generally does that to pretty much any QB, but the Vikings had no answer to it.
Defensively, they could not stop the Browns running game. Stefanski ran his offense exactly as he wanted and the Vikings just weren't good enough.
Anyway, the Browns are a really good team. That much is obvious. The Vikings, OTOH, are not. They're probably another .500 team at best. That might be good enough to eke into the playoffs. It might not. What it is for sure is not good enough to sniff a Superbowl.
Bears are incompetent but Bears managed to sweep the Vikings the past few yearschicagopurple wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 4:01 pm This will be the most boring Vikes season ever. You cannot play football without an OL. We are just pretending to be an NFL team, with no chance of real success. The Browns are just better than average, a good/great team will crush the Vikes. Luckily the Lions and Bears are just as incompetent as the Vikes so we will get a few wins.
Yeah, I hate when people want to blame everyone else for a coach, GM or QBs failings.Pondering Her Percy wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:38 pmNo the point is, every time the head honcho of this team is blamed for something, stump goes into defense modeRandyMoss84 wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:34 pm
Who cares? Let them since they lost to the Browns at home
That is not entirety's Cousins' fault since the offensive line played like garbage, if you want put the blame on the loss, blame it on the offensive lineStumpHunter wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 4:27 pmYeah, I hate when people want to blame everyone else for a coach, GM or QBs failings.Pondering Her Percy wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:38 pm
No the point is, every time the head honcho of this team is blamed for something, stump goes into defense mode
This one I put primarily on our QB who did what he always does against good defenses though. HC always bears some responsibility for a loss, but it is hard to win with a garbage QB, and today the QB was complete garbage.
So you really think a FG at the end of the first half was the reason they couldn't score at all in the second half? And what makes you think a team will try harder for a td to win the game instead of a td to tie the game. You must also realize that the Browns passed on a sure FG on their first possession, right? They were lucky to have a chance to tie it at the end of the game.YikesVikes wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:28 pm Again the issue is 2 min defense.
In all of our loses, we have given up points in the most Vikings of ways. This time, the Browns had no timeouts and we gave up about a 30 yard run while they were just trying to kill the clock. Thye get a FG and it changes the mentality late. Instead of going in for a win. we are going in hoping to tie. Bad defense.
Yes there is a difference in playing to win vs. playing to tie. Confidence, urgency and play calling all matter.Purple Reign wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 4:43 pmSo you really think a FG at the end of the first half was the reason they couldn't score at all in the second half? And what makes you think a team will try harder for a td to win the game instead of a td to tie the game. You must also realize that the Browns passed on a sure FG on their first possession, right? They were lucky to have a chance to tie it at the end of the game.YikesVikes wrote: āSun Oct 03, 2021 3:28 pm Again the issue is 2 min defense.
In all of our loses, we have given up points in the most Vikings of ways. This time, the Browns had no timeouts and we gave up about a 30 yard run while they were just trying to kill the clock. Thye get a FG and it changes the mentality late. Instead of going in for a win. we are going in hoping to tie. Bad defense.