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Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:47 am
by CharVike
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:30 pm
Trade or Dozier
On a side note: Trade a second for Yannick, get a 3rd back, then watch him make bank in the off-season and you sold him at a loss.
Yannick signed with Raiders. Ravens made a bad trade also. There's more to this than we will ever know. How many top pass rushers bounce around like this? There right behind QBs in value. Every team needs them.
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:01 am
by fiestavike
Yannick sucks.
Trading for him was an error. Trading him away and recouping something was a good move.
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:12 am
by Maelstrom88
CharVike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:47 am
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:30 pm
Trade or Dozier
On a side note: Trade a second for Yannick, get a 3rd back, then watch him make bank in the off-season and you sold him at a loss.
Yannick signed with Raiders. Ravens made a bad trade also. There's more to this than we will ever know. How many top pass rushers bounce around like this? There right behind QBs in value. Every team needs them.
You may be right. Or it may be that the Vikings and Ravens just couldn't spend the cap it takes to secure him long term. We will see how he does in Vegas.
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:15 am
by RandyMoss84
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:12 am
CharVike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:47 am
Yannick signed with Raiders. Ravens made a bad trade also. There's more to this than we will ever know. How many top pass rushers bounce around like this? There right behind QBs in value. Every team needs them.
You may be right. Or it may be that the Vikings and Ravens just couldn't spend the cap it takes to secure him long term. We will see how he does in Vegas.
He probably will do well just like Carlson just to spite Vikings
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:45 am
by CharVike
RandyMoss84 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:15 am
Maelstrom88 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 9:12 am
You may be right. Or it may be that the Vikings and Ravens just couldn't spend the cap it takes to secure him long term. We will see how he does in Vegas.
He probably will do well just like Carlson just to spite Vikings
He can play well if he wants to. That's a big if though.
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:05 am
by Angels Wings
YikesVikes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:48 pm
Angels Wings wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:37 pm
Didn't understand trading him in the first place.
Rumors was that he was freelancing.
On defensive assignments?
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:07 pm
by CharVike
Husker Vike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:51 pm
Feiler looks like a complete bargain now, agree that Zeitler and Thuney were too high priced for our budget, but I am disappointed in our front office for not having more space cleared before today. Now our backs are against the wall and to top it off, we may be dealing with a disgruntled star defensive end!
They don't fit any budget. They will be available again soon. Thing is a team needs to spend the min cap space. They threw it somewhere. If there was some QBs available it would go there. NFL needs many more quality QBs. That's always been the case. But our backs aren't against the wall. We are in the same spot we've been in and will be for some time out. Fighting for a wild card again. None of those guards would change that. Our O was no 4 last year. What's wrong with that? We need a pass rush monster at DE and DT. I don't see any. They are all signed. Just like the QBs.
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:32 pm
by CharVike
CharVike wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:07 pm
Husker Vike wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 9:51 pm
Feiler looks like a complete bargain now, agree that Zeitler and Thuney were too high priced for our budget, but I am disappointed in our front office for not having more space cleared before today. Now our backs are against the wall and to top it off, we may be dealing with a disgruntled star defensive end!
They don't fit any budget. They will be available again soon. Thing is a team needs to spend the min cap space. They threw it somewhere. If there was some QBs available it would go there. NFL needs many more quality QBs. That's always been the case. But our backs aren't against the wall. We are in the same spot we've been in and will be for some time out. Fighting for a wild card again. None of those guards would change that. Our O was no 4 last year. What's wrong with that? We need a pass rush monster at DE and DT. I don't see any. They are all signed. Just like the QBs.
That sounds bleak but if we get hot at the end it could work with what we got. We see that every year. Like that Buc D. That D peaked at the right time. The 49ers won a playoff game throwing few passes. That D peaked at the right time. If our D peaked in Philly Foles wouldn't have ripped them apart. That's how it goes.
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:42 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
YikesVikes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:46 pm
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:21 pm
Yeah because overall I don’t necessarily believe that. I’m simply ticked off with this current situation. Even though we did just sign Tomlinson which now gives us an excellent interior
For the money we gave Dalvin (DT) we could have gotten Short or Ford. Would have rather roll the dice with them. I don't like Dalvin's balance and speed off the ball. He gets washed down a lot on OL handoffs. Love that he is healthy who has played 16 games on a regular. Will we be running him and Pierce at the same time? He and peirce seem to play the same NT position.
Again, Tomlinson has played all over the line and has played plenty of 3 tech as well. Pierce is a guaranteed NT. Tomlinson can play both and yes, 1000% they will both be on the field at the same time.
And to be honest man, did you really just try and question Tomlinsons ability vs the run? When you were trying to defend Eric Wilson who was downright horrid against the run? Dalvin Tomlinson was 2nd in the entire NFL in terms of overall run defense from 2017-2020. I think the last thing you should be critiquing is his run defense. He has been near elite in that regard and as consistent as they come.
Re: Interior offensive line free agents.
Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:39 pm
by YikesVikes
Pondering Her Percy wrote: ↑Tue Mar 16, 2021 12:42 pm
YikesVikes wrote: ↑Mon Mar 15, 2021 10:46 pm
For the money we gave Dalvin (DT) we could have gotten Short or Ford. Would have rather roll the dice with them. I don't like Dalvin's balance and speed off the ball. He gets washed down a lot on OL handoffs. Love that he is healthy who has played 16 games on a regular. Will we be running him and Pierce at the same time? He and peirce seem to play the same NT position.
Again, Tomlinson has played all over the line and has played plenty of 3 tech as well. Pierce is a guaranteed NT. Tomlinson can play both and yes, 1000% they will both be on the field at the same time.
And to be honest man, did you really just try and question Tomlinsons ability vs the run? When you were trying to defend Eric Wilson who was downright horrid against the run? Dalvin Tomlinson was 2nd in the entire NFL in terms of overall run defense from 2017-2020. I think the last thing you should be critiquing is his run defense. He has been near elite in that regard and as consistent as they come.
You want to compare LBs vs. DTs ability to stop the run?
Also, I am not an Eric Wilson fan. I felt based on his contract, he was a better option than Barr last season. Barr is more talented but neither would be my starting LB choice.
Also, one critique of his game doesn't mean I said he is bad. I said this based on the Giants games I watched last season (being in DC and a native New Yorker), I noticed that on down blocks, he gave up ground. Also, this is on both pass and run game. That's how you get to him. Engage with him with a center or guard, release him and down block with the other OL. He's still a stud and I am excited. I just salivate about Ford and Short a bit more.