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Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:11 pm
by RandyMoss84
You can take Anthony Lynn off the list since Anthony is offensive coordinator for the Lions now

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:28 am
by VikingPaul73

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:09 am
by RandyMoss84
VikingPaul73 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:28 am Sounds like it will be Klimt

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/2/5/ ... int-kubiak
And you are going to believe Justin? I will wait until official confirmation that it will be Klint

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:02 am
by Bowhunting Viking
RandyMoss84 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:09 am
VikingPaul73 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:28 am Sounds like it will be Klimt

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/2/5/ ... int-kubiak
And you are going to believe Justin? I will wait until official confirmation that it will be Klint
I just looked at PFT and it reports Klint is in.

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:49 am
by RandyMoss84
Bowhunting Viking wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:02 am
RandyMoss84 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:09 am

And you are going to believe Justin? I will wait until official confirmation that it will be Klint
I just looked at PFT and it reports Klint is in.
Ugh :wallbang:

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:27 pm
by VikeFanInEagleLand
And The Winner Is........ KLINT KUBIAK.

Were there really any doubts?

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:34 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
RandyMoss84 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:49 am
Bowhunting Viking wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 10:02 am

I just looked at PFT and it reports Klint is in.
Ugh :wallbang:
Why is that "ugh"? And you wanted who?

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:06 pm
by J. Kapp 11
RandyMoss84 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:09 am
VikingPaul73 wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:28 am Sounds like it will be Klimt

https://www.dailynorseman.com/2021/2/5/ ... int-kubiak
And you are going to believe Justin? I will wait until official confirmation that it will be Klint
I'd certainly believe Justin Jefferson over anything Mike "It's Just a Tweak, and By the Way Stefon Diggs is Our Guy" Zimmer said.

And now that it's official, looks like JJ was on point.

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:25 pm
by RandyMoss84
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:34 pm
RandyMoss84 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 11:49 am

Ugh :wallbang:
Why is that "ugh"? And you wanted who?
I wanted Gase so he would not leave like Zimmer’s offensive coordinators every year, oh well

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:01 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
RandyMoss84 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 1:25 pm
Pondering Her Percy wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 12:34 pm

Why is that "ugh"? And you wanted who?
I wanted Gase so he would not leave like Zimmer’s offensive coordinators every year, oh well
Who would want Adam Gase.....ever at this point?

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:54 pm
by chicagopurple
So the Vikes continue their slide into a non-contending meaningless franchise, making their OC Klint "Daddy's Boy" Kubiak.......showing that Nepotism outranks personal experience and skill......The Vikes ownership/management is truly bargain basement. We are going to be the last rest stop for failed careers.....just disgusting.

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:48 pm
by VikingLord
chicagopurple wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:54 pm So the Vikes continue their slide into a non-contending meaningless franchise, making their OC Klint "Daddy's Boy" Kubiak.......showing that Nepotism outranks personal experience and skill......The Vikes ownership/management is truly bargain basement. We are going to be the last rest stop for failed careers.....just disgusting.
I'd like to believe more went into the selection than simply he is the son of the prior OC.

Working relationships are important factors in developing chemistry and high team performance. In that sense, a known beats an unknown, all other things being equal.

Another factor that likely goes into a decision like this is team reputation. How the current players feel is important. Do they respect the younger Kubiak? Has he shown an ability to relate to them and get the most out of them?

The final factor is scheme continuity. While the Vikings didn't get where they wanted to go this year, they did finish 4th overall on offense and several of their offensive players had very good to historic seasons. If there was a side of the ball where you might want to not upset the apple cart, it's the offensive side.

I'm not saying Klint will turn out to be a great offensive coordinator, but I think he deserves a fair chance and more optimism than you and others seem to want to give him.

There seems to be this pervading vibe on the board that the only way forward for the Vikings is a complete blowup and start over or we're all looking at more of the same forever.

I just don't agree with that whether we're talking about Zimmer, the OC, Cousins, or GM. Yeah, there are areas that need improvement, sure. But the team wasn't *that* far away from making the playoffs this year, and that was despite taking some pretty major injury/opt-out hits on the defensive side plus starting basically all rookies at CB with no real offseason development program. They were close in a lot of games against good teams despite that.

They did fall short in the end, but I think their problem areas are obvious and OC isn't one of them. Not rocking the boat in areas where they don't need obvious improvement while focusing on the areas where they do is the best path forward and likely to pay the highest dividends. I think if they can do that they're going to be right in the Superbowl mix next year barring bad luck with injuries. Promoting Klint Kubiak as OC is consistent with that strategy.

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:55 pm
by RandyMoss84
VikingLord wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:48 pm
chicagopurple wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:54 pm So the Vikes continue their slide into a non-contending meaningless franchise, making their OC Klint "Daddy's Boy" Kubiak.......showing that Nepotism outranks personal experience and skill......The Vikes ownership/management is truly bargain basement. We are going to be the last rest stop for failed careers.....just disgusting.
I'd like to believe more went into the selection than simply he is the son of the prior OC.

Working relationships are important factors in developing chemistry and high team performance. In that sense, a known beats an unknown, all other things being equal.

Another factor that likely goes into a decision like this is team reputation. How the current players feel is important. Do they respect the younger Kubiak? Has he shown an ability to relate to them and get the most out of them?

The final factor is scheme continuity. While the Vikings didn't get where they wanted to go this year, they did finish 4th overall on offense and several of their offensive players had very good to historic seasons. If there was a side of the ball where you might want to not upset the apple cart, it's the offensive side.

I'm not saying Klint will turn out to be a great offensive coordinator, but I think he deserves a fair chance and more optimism than you and others seem to want to give him.

There seems to be this pervading vibe on the board that the only way forward for the Vikings is a complete blowup and start over or we're all looking at more of the same forever.

I just don't agree with that whether we're talking about Zimmer, the OC, Cousins, or GM. Yeah, there are areas that need improvement, sure. But the team wasn't *that* far away from making the playoffs this year, and that was despite taking some pretty major injury/opt-out hits on the defensive side plus starting basically all rookies at CB with no real offseason development program. They were close in a lot of games against good teams despite that.

They did fall short in the end, but I think their problem areas are obvious and OC isn't one of them. Not rocking the boat in areas where they don't need obvious improvement while focusing on the areas where they do is the best path forward and likely to pay the highest dividends. I think if they can do that they're going to be right in the Superbowl mix next year barring bad luck with injuries. Promoting Klint Kubiak as OC is consistent with that strategy.
Are you going to say the same thing about Ryan Ficken? If Klint does a great job, he will leave for a head coaching job or offensive coordinator elsewhere and you will be crying and whining wishing that Klint never got promoted and Vikings hire a crappy offensive coordinator like Gase so Gase would never leave and you would be happy that Vikings finally does not have a offensive coordinator that leaves every year

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 7:37 pm
by YikesVikes
VikingLord wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:48 pm
chicagopurple wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:54 pm So the Vikes continue their slide into a non-contending meaningless franchise, making their OC Klint "Daddy's Boy" Kubiak.......showing that Nepotism outranks personal experience and skill......The Vikes ownership/management is truly bargain basement. We are going to be the last rest stop for failed careers.....just disgusting.
I'd like to believe more went into the selection than simply he is the son of the prior OC.

Working relationships are important factors in developing chemistry and high team performance. In that sense, a known beats an unknown, all other things being equal.

Another factor that likely goes into a decision like this is team reputation. How the current players feel is important. Do they respect the younger Kubiak? Has he shown an ability to relate to them and get the most out of them?

The final factor is scheme continuity. While the Vikings didn't get where they wanted to go this year, they did finish 4th overall on offense and several of their offensive players had very good to historic seasons. If there was a side of the ball where you might want to not upset the apple cart, it's the offensive side.

I'm not saying Klint will turn out to be a great offensive coordinator, but I think he deserves a fair chance and more optimism than you and others seem to want to give him.

There seems to be this pervading vibe on the board that the only way forward for the Vikings is a complete blowup and start over or we're all looking at more of the same forever.

I just don't agree with that whether we're talking about Zimmer, the OC, Cousins, or GM. Yeah, there are areas that need improvement, sure. But the team wasn't *that* far away from making the playoffs this year, and that was despite taking some pretty major injury/opt-out hits on the defensive side plus starting basically all rookies at CB with no real offseason development program. They were close in a lot of games against good teams despite that.

They did fall short in the end, but I think their problem areas are obvious and OC isn't one of them. Not rocking the boat in areas where they don't need obvious improvement while focusing on the areas where they do is the best path forward and likely to pay the highest dividends. I think if they can do that they're going to be right in the Superbowl mix next year barring bad luck with injuries. Promoting Klint Kubiak as OC is consistent with that strategy.
7 out of 16 teams made the playoffs. It's easy and we still didn't do it.

Re: Next OC for the Vikings?

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:03 am
by chicagopurple
it is delusional to think we are "near the cusp".
we have NO OL
We have a out dated Head Coach who doesnt take advise and alienates his players
We have an aging defense and some of the best components have injuries which may be long term
We have a HUGE financial commitment to a middling QB who has shown no ability to lead when it matters
We have aGM who has a decade of evidence proving he is incapable of building an OL or wisely finding a top teir QB
Had we crawled into the post season, we would have been embarrassed in the first game and sent home to lick our wounds....AGAIN