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mosscarter wrote:i'd sign him in an instant and pay him 20 million. we have wasted peterson's prime years he deserves one last shot to play with a real quarterback. kaepernick is no better purple haze, bad mechanics and poor downfield vision. the only difference is he is built more stout, but as a passer he sucks just as much.

While I understand where you're coming from in wanting to give Peterson a shot at a ring, like he had the first year of Farvemainia in purple

But, even if you think Manning has more in him, I think this Dailynorseman post( http://www.dailynorseman.com/2015/12/7/ ... gotta-give) really points out why Manning and Peterson wouldn't make a good pairing at this point in their careers. Just like Bridgewater, Manning is having his success out of the shotgun formation not under center where Peterson prefers to lineup....also as has been mentioned our O-Line doesn't appear up to the task of protecting a statue.

jonathan keller wrote:Think about it. With Bridgewater struggling, Just one year under the greatest mind in football history and who knows how much better he could get. And i personally think Peyton just has 1 more year in him anyway, i think he's just having a bad year.

Peyton is not the consensus 'Greatest mind in NFL history' and he is old and washed up by now.

Jordysghost wrote: Peyton is not the consensus 'Greatest mind in NFL history' and he is old and washed up by now.

And still better than Teddy.
Forget what Teddy could learn from him. Who learned from Favre here?
Get the best QB in here. Who's better after this year, Teddy, Manning, or whoever our GM can find?
I'll take Manning at this point. Just like I'd take Favre in 09 over the alternatives. Or would we have been better off with TJoke?

Demi wrote: And still better than Teddy.
Forget what Teddy could learn from him. Who learned from Favre here?
Get the best QB in here. Who's better after this year, Teddy, Manning, or whoever our GM can find?
I'll take Manning at this point. Just like I'd take Favre in 09 over the alternatives. Or would we have been better off with TJoke?

Teddy is arguably the better player right now, T Jack could never say that in comparison to Favre, Favre didn't have a washed up noodle arm coming off arguably the worst season of his career. You don't pay 40 something year old QBs coming off terrible a season to come in and start over first round draft picks.

Alot is made of Rodgers learning from Favre, and while I think it came into play to an extent, it is much overstated, Favre had little to do with the development of Rodgers.

DK Sweets wrote:Just today, after Teddy's best game as a pro, I've seen posts advocating for Manning, Kaepernick, and Ryan.

In the words of Vince Lombardi, "What the hell is going on out here?"

I said Kap ad Mallet to replace Hill or Hein. Im one of the 'at least give Teddy 3-4' year before we hang him. If I was the one you were talking about Kap and Mallet playing. I'd rather have you starting in place of Hill. I just want to see the Vikings teach some QB the fundamentals of playing QB. Or maybe not ruin them, like they seem to want to do to Teddy.

Demi wrote: And still better than Teddy.
Forget what Teddy could learn from him. Who learned from Favre here?
Get the best QB in here. Who's better after this year, Teddy, Manning, or whoever our GM can find?
I'll take Manning at this point. Just like I'd take Favre in 09 over the alternatives. Or would we have been better off with TJoke?

Thought you said picking up Favre was one of the worst things the Vikings ever did?

You don't pay 40 something year old QBs coming off terrible a season to come in and start over first round draft picks.

Favre was 39 going on 40 in 2009.
TJoke a 2nd round pick.

If we didn't trade for Teddy, chances are he was a 2nd round QB.
And we paid a 39 something year old QB 20~ mil coming off a shoulder injury, and some major questions. With people saying the same things.

Do you honestly believe next season we'd be better off starting the season with Teddy Bridgewater over Peyton Manning?

At worst, to me, it's a toss up. At best, I'd take Manning with plenty of time to heal up, and Bridgewater backing him up.

Demi wrote: Favre was 39 going on 40 in 2009.
TJoke a 2nd round pick.

If we didn't trade for Teddy, chances are he was a 2nd round QB.
And we paid a 39 something year old QB 20~ mil coming off a shoulder injury, and some major questions. With people saying the same things.

Do you honestly believe next season we'd be better off starting the season with Teddy Bridgewater over Peyton Manning?

At worst, to me, it's a toss up. At best, I'd take Manning with plenty of time to heal up, and Bridgewater backing him up.

Nobody was doubting Favres armstrength, and he wasn't coming off of arguably his worst year as a pro, Manning is, and he can't drive the ball downfield anymore. Also T-Jack was a second round pick who was going into his fourth year, Bridgewater is a 1st rounder that you traded up for who wil be going into his third year.

Yes, that is exactly what I am saying, and even if it wasn't, the money you would have to give Manning would render it not worthy the price. In fact, you guys are lucky Favre worked out like he did for that first year because he probably had the greatest season by a 'stopgag' QB in NFL history. Manning isn't far ahead of Bridge at this point in his career.

You really want to spend money and cap room on Manning? Unless he reverted to his prior form, which is unlikely, I simply can't envision a scenario where that would be worth it.

S197 wrote:I don't think we need yet another stop gap QB past his prime. We need a long term solution at the position.

Well said. I completely agree.

I'd rather give Bridgewater a third year to see what he does than bring in a fading 40 year old Manning.

losperros wrote:
Well said. I completely agree.

I'd rather give Bridgewater a third year to see what he does than bring in a fading 40 year old Manning.

OFC, no one, other then Demi, would even think something like this, because it solves nothing for now or the future. Demi just contradicted everything hes already said on the board. I think hes been out in the desert eating magic mushrooms again.

slapnut19 wrote:osweiler is a free agent. i'd rather go after him

THIS ^^^^^^^^

I don't understand why anyone would want Peyton Manning as more than backup at this point. He has one of the weakest arms in the league and has no mobility at this point. In this offense he would retire midseason from all the hits and unlike teddy he isn't taking care of the ball which is obvious by his 17 interceptions this season.

This board is absolutely ridiculous sometimes. Absolutely ridiculous. Yeah, let's just get rid of a 23 year QB who has started only 26 NFL games. At least give the guy another season. My goodness.

LOL. Hold on I have to go to the bathroom before I pee my pants. People here are #### about Teddy not being able to throw the long ball. Quick stat for you. Number of times Manning has thrown deep, I mean past 40 yards the last 25 games. 2. Let that sink in for a bit.

Demi wrote: Favre was 39 going on 40 in 2009.
TJoke a 2nd round pick.

If we didn't trade for Teddy, chances are he was a 2nd round QB.
And we paid a 39 something year old QB 20~ mil coming off a shoulder injury, and some major questions. With people saying the same things.

Do you honestly believe next season we'd be better off starting the season with Teddy Bridgewater over Peyton Manning?

At worst, to me, it's a toss up. At best, I'd take Manning with plenty of time to heal up, and Bridgewater backing him up.

Look who finally joins the party

"If we didn't trade for Teddy he would've been a second round pick"???? Lol obviously. He went 32nd and Seattle obviously wasn't going to take him so what kind of assessment is that? I would imagine the reason we did it is because 1.) we get the 5th year option and 2.) we probably wanted to jump Houston who was picking first in the second.

Manning is done. He literally had zero arm strength left. Favre had plenty and was much more mobile. It's not even a comparison. I've been down on Teddy this season but did you even watch the last game? It was his best game of the season against one of the best defenses in the NFL on the road. And it's because Norv finally realized he can't send everyone down field. With our line issues, Manning would literally be in a wheel chair. At least Teddy is mobile and can get out of the pocket.

It would be ridiculously stupid for us to sign Manning. As I said before, Teddy and AP aren't a good match because Teddy is better out of the gun and AP needs to have him go under center. If we stick to a game plan like we had against Arizona, minus running everytime on first down, then I think we'll be fine. Manning is 100% a shotgun passer and could never come out from under center so how in any way do you see Manning would be a fit? It literally makes zero sense