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Can we discuss this frosted? I strongly disagree and would like to hear your reasoningfrosted wrote: I think the 49er defensive front is still going to be excellent - big test for our offensive line, IMO .
NIMV4683 wrote:Key Matchups for MNF
Battle of the trenches
Seems Vikes have the upper hand on us considering how good are their front seven (Griffen,Floyd,Barr,Greenway) vs our guys (Staley,Boone & rest). If it were about brute force then we're lost for sure but if Chryst can make a gameplan which Kap throw quick darts to every receiver (RBs,WRs & TEs) in order to stretch the field and open the big bombs and read options with 3 runners (Kap with either Hyde,Bush or Hayne).
Make Bridgewater to hold the ball
One of biggest asset as passer is he threw ball just as quick as Peyton does so we cannot blitz him with too many players because is gonna torch us all night long. Defense has to win the line of scrimmage with 4 or 5 guys max in order to keep the coverage tight to any potencial receiver either Wallace, Johnson, Patterson, Rudolph or Peterson. Bowman,Tartt, Reid and Bethea are gonna be fundamental to keep the middle field while Acker,Reaser and Johnson be wary of the lines.
Position of field
Special teams has to take advantage either on offense and defense. Pinion must keep Vikes O behind 10 yd line and Hayne or Ellington must get us into midfield or even further so Kap has enough space to move freely also keep Brigdewater behind the wall.
I assume he's talking about Ted, and he's right.One of biggest asset as passer is he threw ball just as quick as Peyton does so we cannot blitz him with too many players because is gonna torch us all night long.
If they do this, Adrian is going to destroy them. You will need not only 8-9 guys in the box, but also extra bodies crashing.Defense has to win the line of scrimmage with 4 or 5 guys max
I agree, our guys should be able to be gluttonous and just feed with a frenzy the likes of which we have yet to see.considering how good are their front seven
Paul Gutierrez, ESPN Staff Writer wrote:"Despite youth, depth a strength at D-line with 49ers' first 53-man roster."
DEFENSIVE LINE
Glenn Dorsey: Nose tackle by trade now starting at left defensive end in 3-4 scheme, and his six career sacks represent half of the sacks racked up by the seven D-linemen … combined.
Ian Williams: Surprisingly agile, mobile and hostile despite being somewhat undersized for a nose tackle.
Quinton Dial: Stepping in for Justin Smith at right defensive end, Dial is expected to blossom as a starter.
Tank Carradine: Showed the nastiest temperament on the D-line in training camp scuffles, but will that translate in games?
Arik Armstead: First-round draft pick has shown power in flashes and figures to get the released Darnell Dockett’s snaps at left DE in the Niners’ nickel packages.
Tony Jerod-Eddie: Played some outside linebacker in preseason finale, perhaps portending more blitzing from a player who has yet to get a career sack.
Mike Purcell: Feel-good story showed he belongs with big preseason games against Houston (dominated line of scrimmage) and Dallas (37-yard pick-six).
This pretty much sums up why my stance is valid. How can the D-line be a strength, when its full of unproven guys? You're most experienced/best player has 6 CAREER sacks in 6 YEARS of playing. This is half of the value of the rest of their D-Line's career totals combined? If so, how could this be perceived as a strength based purely upon potential and expectations? Sure I like Armstead, but that's one guy.. a rookie at that..and his six career sacks represent half of the sacks racked up by the seven D-linemen … combined.
Yeah I missed the second part below it.. no worriesIt was in jest jack, cause I love you
Sure - I think they have a lot of well coached, quality defensive football players in their front seven. Ian Williams, Dial, Glenn Dorsey, Carradine - they are all big and will be tough to move off their spot. At LB, BOWMAN, Lynch, Brooks, Wilhoite ... all plus talent. I think it's a talented defensive front. YMMV.84BreaksAnkles wrote: Can we discuss this frosted? I strongly disagree and would like to hear your reasoning
ahh just drink more and it will be better...I don't feel good about this game... Viking history is not kind in road games we should win.
Until they show me they consistently can win on the road,
IrishViking wrote:In typical Vikings fashion my predictions are this; inconsistency. We will go from a crushing sack fumble TD recovery to blown coverage giving Kap 20 seconds to find the open receiver for a 93 yard TD.
Also, our perceived strength will be our weakness and our weakness will be our strength meaning; Bridgewater will light it up but our running game will lag and our defense will give up big points for some reason
Vikings 36
SF 33
Bess Go'on getchur nose checked there Bowy... This ain'tchur momma's porch suhnTexas Vike wrote:All previous posts smell like fantasy.
I like big words!Texas Vike wrote:
This post has the distinct aroma of verisimilitude. All previous posts smell like fantasy.
I speak four different languages fluently, none of which are the language you seem to be using. I passed it to my colleague, a linguist who is a world renown scholar and master of 16 live languages and 4 dead ones, and his theory is that it is a dialect of a forgotten language from the rural south. His rough translation was that I'd touched a nerve with my comments. Apologies.84BreaksAnkles wrote: Bess Go'on getchur nose checked there Bowy... This ain'tchur momma's porch suhn
I feel a struggle coming too. I'm not confident about this game at all. The Vikes were 2-6 on the road last year and I think they're 5 and 19 on the road over the last 3 seasons. Their road record probably isn't much better over most of this century. Consequently, I'm never confident about a Vikes win in a road game anymore.Texas Vike wrote:I really do hope the Vikings triumph, but I feel a struggle coming, and Irish Vike's post sounds about right to me. "Expect the unexpected" usually holds true with the Vikings.
Those are two factors that are weighing on me too. Add to that our O-line situation and just how pathetic we've looked running the ball. I would like to think that Adrian is SO motivated to prove a point and take out his pent up anger that it won't matter. But I'm afraid that is expecting too much, even of guy who continually amazes the world with his ability and strength.Mothman wrote: I feel a struggle coming too. I'm not confident about this game at all. The Vikes were 2-6 on the road last year and I think they're 5 and 19 on the road over the last 3 seasons. Their road record probably isn't much better over most of this century. Consequently, I'm never confident about a Vikes win in a road game anymore.
Another reason I'm concerned about this game: it's on Monday night. According to Wikipedia, the Vikes all-time record on MNF is 26-29. The 49ers are 47-25 on MNF, I think they may have more MNF wins than any other team.
I don't know what the Vikes record is in primetime games in recent years but it can't be good.
Not to detract from the hilarity of this post, but do you really speak four languages?Texas Vike wrote: I speak four different languages fluently, none of which are the language you seem to be using. I passed it to my colleague, a linguist who is a world renown scholar and master of 16 live languages and 4 dead ones, and his theory is that it is a dialect of a forgotten language from the rural south. His rough translation was that I'd touched a nerve with my comments. Apologies.