A message board dedicated to the discussion of Minnesota Viking Football.
https://vikingsmessageboard.com/
Per the collective bargaining agreement, they are not allowed to do so - only the league can do so. My understanding, anyways.J. Kapp 11 wrote:Here's what I don't understand. Why are the Vikings still paying him if they're eventually going to release him? They could have suspended him and saved a million dollars a week.
I'd appreciate y'all's responses on this. I'm stumped.
A team can only suspend a player without pay for 4 games. Then they have to bring him back or cut him. Besides, because he was on the team on day one, he gets paid if the cut him or don't.frosted21 wrote: Per the collective bargaining agreement, they are not allowed to do so - only the league can do so. My understanding, anyways.
This is were it's going to get interesting with Peterson. The incident happened in May under the old PCP. The indictment came down after the new and improved version PCP came down. And if the NFL works fast enough, the even newer and more improved version could be done before the Peterson case is settled. So, which one would he fall under? And remember, you have to take Goodells comments into account on certain things.Mothman wrote: You make some interesting points but Goodell is in the process of revisiting the league's personal conduct policy and he said 'nothing is off the table" so while the current max suspension for first time offenders in domestic violence-related cases is 6 games, by the time Peterson faces punishment from the league, it could be more or it could be something determined purely on a case-by-case basis. When asked about Peterson during hiuis press conference the other day. Goodell said "What we see so far is tragic." and stressed that he wanted the facts to fully come out in the case.
Peterson's case is unique so I could see leniency or extremely harsh punishment being applied. It's hard to say. Depending on how his case turns out, how repentant he is in the coming weeks and months, and what steps he takes to make up for what he did, it could go either way. I think, as in the case of Vick, there are people who will never forgive him. I also think there are a lot of people who may see him as more of a tragic, misguided figure in all of this and who would be more willing to forgive him. In the end, it's possible the Vikings may not want to touch him with the proverbial ten foot pole. This may be stating the obvious but I believe where this ends up really depends a great deal on what takes place from here.
If the Vikings did want him back, and wanted to reduce his cap hit, they would certainly be in a good position to convince him to renegotiate his contract.
Oh, and if Peterson does become eligible to play before the end of this season, you're right, the Vikings will face a VERY interesting choice, especially if they're in position to make a playoff push.
I was a bit stumped on this as well, but that centered around the exempt list they put him on. The suspension as you stated would have saved money, and they would have more control over the situation as only Roger Goodell has the say when he gets off this list. The NFL would have let the Vikings suspension count towards any the NFL levied. So now, does being on this list qualify as suspension served? I'm guessing no since he is still collecting his salary, unless he agrees to donate the salary for those games to a charity relevant to his current situation.J. Kapp 11 wrote:Here's what I don't understand. Why are the Vikings still paying him if they're eventually going to release him? They could have suspended him and saved a million dollars a week.
I'd appreciate y'all's responses on this. I'm stumped.
That's the truth and a big part of what makes sorting this out so difficult.Mothman wrote: In the current political climate surrounding the NFL (ie: with teams, corporations, sponsors, and the league itself all scrambling to do "what's right" and seemingly basing their idea of "what's right" almost exclusively on which way they feel public opinion is leaning)
I would be OK with him playing for the Vikings again ... if he were actually contrite, admitted what he did was wrong, paid his appropriate penalty, and promised to change. I'm always willing to forgive, and it's much easier if the offender actually asks for forgiveness.Thaumaturgist wrote:If he never plays for the Vikings again, I honestly don't know how I'll feel about it.
Honestly, depending on his willingness to renegotiate his contract (and that was going to come up anyway), I think the only two of those reasons likely to be very relevant are #3 and #4, and even #3 wouldn't be relevant if we're talking about some point later this season, since they're paying him now. Catching passes and blocking have never been Peterson's strengths but they have been greatly overblown as weaknesses. The coaching staff seemed quite satisfied with his progress this summer in taking on the role they would be asking of him.Leafman wrote:He will never play for the Vikings again.
1) He is entering the twilight of the typical RB career.
2) Catching passes and blocking on blitzes have never been his strengths. Norv's system requires both.
2) New coaching staff, new system = new direction.
3) He is expensive.
4) He is a Public Relations liability.
He was the best player to ever don the Purple and Gold, watching him run was one of the greatest pleasures of my life as a sports fan.
Amen.Orion wrote:I will always love Adrian Peterson.
I've always been disappointed with him off the field-fathering 3/4 of a dozen children by who knows how many women isn't my idea of a role model-but I've been able to separate that from him on the field, where I enjoy watching him play. By and large the people where I live consider what he did to his son normal, but I am a transplant, so I just have a different and kind of "middle perspective" on the whole abuse/discipline thing. I could accept him back in purple, just like I accept my neighbors and my community, but I don't think people in Minnesota perceive it the same way as people down here. Not a knock on anybody, just kind of interesting from where I sit. I think he ultimately winds up on a team in tx, ga, tn, fl, or la.Orion wrote:I will always love Adrian Peterson.