Richard Sherman postgame interview

[thatguy]

Well said thatguy...

I wish Sherman's apology had been a little better, but I'll at least give him some credit for apologizing (if only to his teammates).

Absolutely. I still think Sherman is a tool (I've thought that long before this recent "incident"), but I can appreciate when someone can own-up to the fact that maybe they shouldn't have said/did something. I don't think he's a bad guy, I just think he needs to grow up and realize that it's not all about him.

Maybe that's an "old-school" way of looking at things, but if it is, then I don't want to be "new-school."

[Funkytown]

Absolutely. I still think Sherman is a tool...

Is everyone a "tool" to you?

If Sherman had called Crabtree a "tool" would you have been cool with that? Or is that something that he should be above after an emotional victory that is sending his team to the Super Bowl, when you rarely find yourself above it on VMB? C'mon man. For someone who constantly preaches class and maturity, the overuse of "tool" is baffling. Seems like something a young punk in his early 20s would constantly say. No? Which brings me to my next point: Of course Sherman has some growing up to do--and maybe he's a bit of a punk--but he's just 25; he still has time. We all have time and room for improvement.

Also, do you know the definition of "tool"? Because, well, the multiple people that you suggested were "tools" don't fit the description. Just sayin'...

Personally, I think this is getting way overblown. Sure, his postgame interview was a little scary, but he was just being real. I, for one, don't expect ALL of these guys to avoid being emotional on the football field (or shortly after when being asked about the game). Some are more "classy and mature" than others, but that can be said about any group of people. Some people are humble, and some are not. It is what it is, but I think if everyone acted the same, it would be boring. People have different personalities, but they shouldn't show that? C'mon. They can't all be Peyton Manning. And, after all, football is entertainment. Things happen.

And with everything:



P.S. It WAS quite awesome when Wright and Ponder burned Sherman. That was good stuff. It was Ponder, right? Makes it even better...

[Funkytown]

So trash talking is fine by you guys, on a board, with no talent, but not by Sherman, after a perfect game? Gotcha.

Well, yes, of course. But wait, who are you calling talentless? J/K. I got it.

[thatguy]

Is everyone a "tool" to you?

If Sherman had called Crabtree a "tool" would you have been cool with that? Or is that something that he should be above after an emotional victory that is sending his team to the Super Bowl, when you rarely find yourself above it on VMB? C'mon man. For someone who constantly preaches class and maturity, the overuse of "tool" is baffling. Seems like something a young punk in his early 20s would constantly say. No? Which brings me to my next point: Of course Sherman has some growing up to do--and maybe he's a bit of a punk--but he's just 25; he still has time. We all have time and room for improvement.

Because I'm not at a JOB, and by talking the way I do on here, I'm not teaching millions of kids that it's okay to be completely classless and have zero consideration for anyone else as long as you're good at what you do. As I said before, humility is truly a lost art in America if people can actually defend a guy like this (and not just for Sunday's incident but because he does stuff like that all the time). If Sherman wants to go around telling all his friends how great he is or whatever, I couldn't care less - good on him. But when he brings it into the world of the NFL - where kids idolize and want to be JUST LIKE the athletes - then I have a problem with it. Athletes, though obviously special in our society, shouldn't be held to standards that suggest that people who make a lot of money and get all the face time are held to any different behavioral standards than anyone else. Professionalism is something that I've preached since day one. Would you talk the same way with your parents as you would with your friends? I don't.

I have no problem telling people that they're being foolish when they really are, and I also know how to keep my mouth shut in certain situations. There have been times when I wanted to tell an employee to "**** off" or that they suck at their job or whatever...but I don't. Mostly because I have enough respect for other people in that situation, but usually it's because I know how to control myself in that environment. There's a time and a place for everything and Sherman hasn't learned that yet.

Say what you want about them not doing a "normal" job or being "regular" people that are here just to entertain us - it's more than that to me and to a lot of people. A lot of kids. Again, if that's just an old-school way of looking at it, so be it...that's just the way I am.

Oh, and just to note, a tool (in my mind) is someone who I usually characterize as having drawn a ton of attention to themselves and just made themselves look foolish in the process - they're usually pretty self-centered to go along with that.

[Funkytown]

I understand some of your points, thatguy, and I actually agree with some of your thoughts, however, I think it's too easy to put blame on athletes, video games, society, etc. as far as why people act a certain way. At the end of the day, I think it comes down to good parenting and guidance for children and teens... If you have that, a lot of times, you can cancel out any "stupid moment by an athlete" or a "violent video game" or "society's pressures to be this or do that..." I understand that all of us screw up, and also, all of us are a bit judgy at times, but I think it's pretty unrealistic, and sometimes unfair, to put so much pressure on (and place so many high standards on) "famous people" to act like perfect people all the time. Is anyone mature, classy, and humble 100% of the time? It's understandable to want people in the spotlight to act a certain way, but from where I'm standing, there are FAR more people in these kids' lives who are much more influential--and much more stupid. So, that's where I'm at with it. Could Sherman have acted more mature, respectful, and humble? Sure. But for every kid who decides "that's cool", they should have a parent, sibling, or some sort of personal role model to "set them straight" if they feel it's necessary. I don't even think what Sherman said was that bad. Sure, he was crazy hyped up and obnoxious, but what did he even say that was all that bad? "I'm the best in the game!" and "Crabtree is a sorry and mediocre receiver"? Come on. Is that the worst that it gets? Sign me up for that...that's nothing. You can hear worse on an Elementary School playground. Is that all from famous people, or is that more from their family? I don't disagree that these "famous people role models" should be aware of how their words/actions affect those who idolize them, but I still think your issues are a bit misplaced. You, my friend, have bigger fish to fry when it comes to troubled kids in our society.

[Funkytown]

Oh, and just to note, a tool (in my mind) is someone who I usually characterize as having drawn a ton of attention to themselves and just made themselves look foolish in the process - they're usually pretty self-centered to go along with that.

...yeah, not exactly the right definition. But I figured your meaning was close to that.

[frosted]

I think his 'choke' gesture was a bit more extreme and misguided than anything he said. Just my opinion.

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[Funkytown]

I think his 'choke' gesture was a bit more extreme and misguided than anything he said. Just my opinion.

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And how many of us still love(d) Moss after the "mooning" incident?

Actually, I didn't like how he ran up to Crabtree after the play and hit his butt and was supposedly saying "Good job" or "Good game". To me, that wasn't genuine. That was taunting. Let's give credit to Crabtree for not losing it on him, because I think I would have.

Sherman was fined for that. Did he get in trouble for his postgame interview?

[Funkytown]

Josh would have been at least 10 yards away from the microphone during the interview...(and 5 seconds late answering each question).

[frosted]

He was only fined for the gesture, I believe. It is what it is, I would love to have a player of Sherman's caliber on the Vikings, but I would hate his antics, he is annoying AF.

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[Funkytown]

He was only fined for the gesture, I believe. It is what it is, I would love to have a player of Sherman's caliber on the Vikings, but I would hate his antics, he is annoying AF.

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I don't know. I fell in love with the Vikings in '98. I KNOW many people thought Moss was annoying and cocky, but I loved every minute of it.

I think it just depends if the guy is on your team or not. lol. It makes a big difference if some guy is making plays for you. Heck, I get cocky in my living room. I ain't gonna lie. Football is serious. We all express that differently.

[frosted]

I don't know. I fell in love with the Vikings in '98. I KNOW many people thought Moss was annoying and cocky, but I loved every minute of it.

I think it just depends if the guy is on your team or not. lol. It makes a big difference if some guy is making plays for you. Heck, I get cocky in my living room. I ain't gonna lie. Football is serious. We all express that differently.

I disagree, but that is fine. Just my opinion.

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[Funkytown]

I disagree, but that is fine. Just my opinion.

Understandable. Some of us are okay with the occasional "in your face" guy in sports...and some aren't. That's why this Sherman discussion is what it is. We all have different preferences--and tolerance levels.

[frosted]

Understandable. Some of us are okay with the occasional "in your face" guy in sports...and some aren't. That's why this Sherman discussion is what it is. We all have different preferences--and tolerance levels.

To be clear, I actually have no problems with that between the white lines. My main beef with Sherm is his actions and comments off the field. He gets extremely annoying, talking about himself all the time, his incident with Skip Bayless, calling Revis out on Twitter. I thought the 'choke' gesture was a little extreme, but as far as an in your face kind of guy ON the field, I love that. I played the game the same way in my glory days Trash talk is a great thing, towards your competitor, on the field. It's an excellent way to get inside your opponent's head.

I don't understand why he feels the need to tell everyone how good he is off the field though. Maybe he is insecure.

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[thatguy]

I understand some of your points, thatguy, and I actually agree with some of your thoughts, however, I think it's too easy to put blame on athletes, video games, society, etc. as far as why people act a certain way. At the end of the day, I think it comes down to good parenting and guidance for children and teens... If you have that, a lot of times, you can cancel out any "stupid moment by an athlete" or a "violent video game" or "society's pressures to be this or do that..." I understand that all of us screw up, and also, all of us are a bit judgy at times, but I think it's pretty unrealistic, and sometimes unfair, to put so much pressure on (and place so many high standards on) "famous people" to act like perfect people all the time. Is anyone mature, classy, and humble 100% of the time? It's understandable to want people in the spotlight to act a certain way, but from where I'm standing, there are FAR more people in these kids' lives who are much more influential--and much more stupid. So, that's where I'm at with it. Could Sherman have acted more mature, respectful, and humble? Sure. But for every kid who decides "that's cool", they should have a parent, sibling, or some sort of personal role model to "set them straight" if they feel it's necessary. I don't even think what Sherman said was that bad. Sure, he was crazy hyped up and obnoxious, but what did he even say that was all that bad? "I'm the best in the game!" and "Crabtree is a sorry and mediocre receiver"? Come on. Is that the worst that it gets? Sign me up for that...that's nothing. You can hear worse on an Elementary School playground. Is that all from famous people, or is that more from their family? I don't disagree that these "famous people role models" should be aware of how their words/actions affect those who idolize them, but I still think your issues are a bit misplaced. You, my friend, have bigger fish to fry when it comes to troubled kids in our society.

You will never fully understand how I feel about sports and athletes and that's okay.