What "advantage" that was wasted with Jared Allen are you talking about?PurpleKoolaid wrote: He complained of 3 different injures this year, and kept starting. I admire him for being tough, but he is human after all. This is a business. We wasted the advantage we had with JA. We better not do it again.
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The opportunity to shop him while he was still under contract and producing.thatguy wrote: What "advantage" that was wasted with Jared Allen are you talking about?
Instead we hang onto him, his play slowly drops, while his contract number rises, and then he walks in free agency.
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Maybe the Packers should think about trading Rodgers while he is still young enough and healthy
More value now than later




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Rodgers gives his team a chance at the playoffs every year, and a legitimate super bowl team has to have a franchise QB.
Peterson gives his team...a chance at a wild card spot? If he has a QB to help him there? 1-3 in the playoffs in 7 years. And only because Favre was here.
Now he's beat up, making the most out of any player on the team? I'd take that 15~ million a year and get two or three solid players, along with whatever compensation you can get. You can win without elite running backs, hell the top rushers in a year usually don't make it out of the first round of the playoffs if they even get there. You can make an offense work with even below average talent at the position...
Peterson gives his team...a chance at a wild card spot? If he has a QB to help him there? 1-3 in the playoffs in 7 years. And only because Favre was here.
Now he's beat up, making the most out of any player on the team? I'd take that 15~ million a year and get two or three solid players, along with whatever compensation you can get. You can win without elite running backs, hell the top rushers in a year usually don't make it out of the first round of the playoffs if they even get there. You can make an offense work with even below average talent at the position...
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Again with this. I know, every time we get a HoF caliber player, and he experiences any injury, or turns 28-30, let's trade him for draft picks because that works exactly... never.
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If we kept Musgrave and Frazier I would have voted to trade AD. I think Norv and Zimmer can build an elite offense around him.
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I can't believe Aaron Rodgers getting traded is being compared to Peterson being traded. As Demi said, you have one guy who actually has talent to take his team to the super bowl. You have another guy who has enough talent to BARELY get us into the playoffs, only for us to lose because we have no talented QB. We've seen how the Vikings fared this year without Peterson. We will be fine without him as long as we have a good QB. Rodgers on the other hand would leave the Packers broken without his presence on the field.
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Not just a QB either. But how about the 15 mil we save we invest in a couple solid free agents on defense? Or a guard, a corner, and a linebacker? We've been cutting guys because we're over the cap for two years. This team needs help all over, spending almost an eighth of our salary cap on a low value position? insanity...
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Can ANYONE tell me of a long term contract with a RB that was really worth it after 3 yrs? (in the modern era please) ?
I love AP, for years he has been about the only reason to have ANY hope for this goofy ownership/managment. (Well, JA also). However, it does seem against the general trend of the league to tie up a huge amount of cash in a RB for many years. There is good reason for this policy.
I love AP, for years he has been about the only reason to have ANY hope for this goofy ownership/managment. (Well, JA also). However, it does seem against the general trend of the league to tie up a huge amount of cash in a RB for many years. There is good reason for this policy.
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For what it's worth: I think Norv will seek out a 3rd down catching HB. McFadden would be the dream but he'd want starter money.
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Or maybe Norv will see that Peterson isn't necessarily a liability in this area? I still think he gets a bad rap in terms of catching ability. And his protections have improved. I'm often frustrated at the game's previous MVP standing on the sidelines on crucial third downs.NextQuestion wrote:For what it's worth: I think Norv will seek out a 3rd down catching HB. McFadden would be the dream but he'd want starter money.
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I agree but he just doesn't look as smooth catching the ball. Guys like Woodhead and Vereen are perfect for it because they create true mismatches
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Mismatches in what area? Tell me what linebacker on Adrian Peterson one-on-one in space isn't grossly overmatched? Peterson wins that battle All Day. I've always felt that, like Harvin on vertical routes, he's been under-utilized on third downs and in the receiving game. I'll give you he doesn't look as smooth as a guy like Woodhead or Vereen catching the ball, but that doesn't mean he can't do it. I'd still rather have AD in the game on third downs. Vereen might catch a first down, but Peterson will likely get you the first down plus (with an increased chance of taking it to the house).NextQuestion wrote:I agree but he just doesn't look as smooth catching the ball. Guys like Woodhead and Vereen are perfect for it because they create true mismatches
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I've always been puzzled by this also. Maybe Peterson just isn't good at receiving or blocking but I often wonder if this is another coaching blunder. Peterson is big enough and strong enough to be a good blocker. Can't he learn or isn't he being coached? I've seen him catch and he's made some decent catches but too often they were balls thrown either at or behind the line. How about getting him out in patterns rather than just the outlet Guy. It will be interesting to see what Turner does with him. Hopefully it will be more than what Musgrave did.dead_poet wrote: Or maybe Norv will see that Peterson isn't necessarily a liability in this area? I still think he gets a bad rap in terms of catching ability. And his protections have improved. I'm often frustrated at the game's previous MVP standing on the sidelines on crucial third downs.
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It may be even less. We have much (and I mean MUCH) better receivers than AP. I say let him do what he does best. And yeah, maybe learn to block better. He probably thinks it's below him because after all he's Adrian Peterson, the guy whose gonna run for 2500 yards and score 20 TDs. 
