If you were Wilf.....

[PurpleHalo]

What about Pete Carmichael from New Orleans? He's been the OC for the Saints for a while now. However, it is Sean Payton that does the play calling, but he's got to have learned plenty of Sean's trick to be a suitable HC.

I also like the idea of Billicks. I prefer not to bring in Cowher, Dungy, or Parcells- basically any old school coaches because the game as changed so much. Those guys know their stuff, but unless they're willing to give up plenty of power to a great OC (which we'll have to dish out $$ for as well), then I doubt their style of play will work in today's NFL.

We took this route with Childress, an offensive coordinator who the head coach didn't trust to call plays, and he got bood off the field when he did.

I want an offensive mind who was in charge of the offense, and lit it up. No more of this, I hope the guy learned well fetching coffee.

[Superman]

I would love favre to qb coach for us. Remember in 2010 how he read the defenses and would completely disregard whatever trash chilly had drawn up, that was so great. Wouldn't mind mooch, gruden, cowher however unrealistic. Don't keep up with college coaches, but I'm done with project coaches, we don't need anymore experimental years. I want a leader who has made winning a habit.

[Demi]

We took this route with Childress, an offensive coordinator who the head coach didn't trust to call plays, and he got bood off the field when he did.

I want an offensive mind who was in charge of the offense, and lit it up. No more of this, I hope the guy learned well fetching coffee.

And then we hired another OC who didn't call plays to follow him up.

[Eli]

I'd like to see Spielman get a shot at hiring his own coach. I think he's done enough to keep his job. He's drafted the offensive rookie of the year, twice. Traded for Jared Allen, got decent compensation for Harvin, fooled the Browns into giving us draft picks, found guys like Robison, Griffen and Sullivan in the later rounds, picked up numerous other solid starters (Rudolph, Walsh, Kalil, Felton, Smith, etc.). Ponder was a miss and his track record at CB so far isn't the greatest but I think he's brought enough talent to see whether he's part of the problem or with a better coach the team improves.

What's the saying about a blind squirrel finding the occasional acorn? The current Vikings roster is nothing to crow about. Lack of depth across the board, and lack of quality starters at QB, G, LB and CB, difficulty drafting WRs and assembling a good WR corps. It's not the sort of stuff that makes up a great resume for a personnel guy.

[thatguy]

I didn't vote because none of the options seemed to fit how I felt about it. I definitely don't think anything should be "blown up." As someone pointed out yesterday, there are plenty of examples that have a fast turnaround without a huge change in personnel. Look at KC for example. Get a decent, stable QB and a coaching staff that's ready to go and you can see what will happen. I don't think Frazier should be fired, but I do think Musgrave should get the boot.

[The Breeze]

Why does it seem like our DC is getting a pass? That guy should be not be running our defense and be tossed before any of them.

[Demi]

In the end, I gotta say players matter more than coaches.

I think both matter. There are coaches that can get more out of players. Bevell isn't one of them. An average coach can succeed with good to great players. A good coach can do well with average players. Same the other way around.

Why does it seem like our DC is getting a pass? That guy should be not be running our defense and be tossed before any of them.

Quite a few people are getting a pass. And have for years. People point to this, that, and the other. We could bring in new coaches...and what if a big part of the problem is Spielman? Paul Allen says there's a disconnect, and Spielman should find that disconnect...what if Spielman is part of that disconnect?

People point out Harvin, AD, Allen...yet he only had control of the roster for the past couple of years. We're blaming Childress for problems before that when he had control, yet giving Spielman credit for the positive things? Is there a coach that was hired under Spielmans watch we should be excited about? Trading apparently this amazing talent for a 1st...is this a move some GMs wouldn't have made considering the situation? A top flight GM would have made the move sooner when Harvin's value was higher...by the time he moved him it was clear to everyone Harvin was going to be moved. The Browns call, was Spielman going to turn down a trade? The guys drafts could have been ran by Mel Kiper or any other draftnik as often as he drafts the guys the NFL Network has slotted there...

[The Breeze]

Quite a few people are getting a pass. And have for years. People point to this, that, and the other. We could bring in new coaches...and what if a big part of the problem is Spielman? Paul Allen says there's a disconnect, and Spielman should find that disconnect...what if Spielman is part of that disconnect?

People point out Harvin, AD, Allen...yet he only had control of the roster for the past couple of years. We're blaming Childress for problems before that when he had control, yet giving Spielman credit for the positive things? Is there a coach that was hired under Spielmans watch we should be excited about? Trading apparently this amazing talent for a 1st...is this a move some GMs wouldn't have made considering the situation? A top flight GM would have made the move sooner when Harvin's value was higher...by the time he moved him it was clear to everyone Harvin was going to be moved. The Browns call, was Spielman going to turn down a trade? The guys drafts could have been ran by Mel Kiper or any other draftnik as often as he drafts the guys the NFL Network has slotted there...

I have my concerns about Spielman and the whole crew evaluating talent, as well as the general philosophy of the team in this particular era. The main thing I see is a complete lack of imagination and innovation that corresponds to the actual time it is necessary.

This secondary has flailed for years now...YEARS. It's not going to be fixed by the people currently in place(Fraizer)...if that were the case it would be fixed by now as it has been addressed both through the draft and FA for years, and it still sucks. Scheme, players, execution... whatever ...it sucks bad.

The way this team has developed it's over all talent bears a striking resemblance to the way Ponder has developed at QB. Harrison Smith, Percy Harvin, Adrian Peterson, Greenway, Rudolph...all would have been good no matter who drafted them.

Since Spielman didn't have the say in hiring Fraizer or who he hired to coordinate this team...I'd have to give him some benefit of the doubt until he does have that say. And it may have been his influence that kept Fraizer from being extended last offseason.

This is all on the Wilfs to get fixed...Fraizer's impact on this team has been a milder/friendlier version of Childress IMO....and that was their guy.

I think the disconnect is between Spielman and Fraizer........ and it could be that the ownership is just clueless. I could be too