mrc44 wrote:
Child's was actually regarded as one of the best wide receivers in college and then he tore his patella for te first time and misses a whole season, he then started to make a decent come back and it was beloved that if he could return to his original skill level he would be possibly the steal of last years draft. Obviously that didn't happen, the poor kid had the same injury occur again, but this time to both knees. It really sucks, because he could have been the outside receiver we desperately needed last year.
The kid was just as good as every wr in this draft
Exctly! Before Childs injury he was considered one of the best coming out of college, Id always here the football heads boast about the kid. Is he injury prone? Sure seems like it, could not duck the injury bug. Will he ever be 100%? Its a crap shoot, the kid blew both his knees some players never return after that. My point was Childs talent coming out of college, injury aside was one of THE BEST ncaa wideouts period.
Injury prone? No. He has had probably one of the worst injuries an athlete could possibly have. IF he comes back, I would be surprised. And if he comes back, he will most likely not make it more than a few years without the same injury which realistically would end his career. But stranger things have happened. He is more than likely going to have a short NFL career. But if he is as good as he looked, that could be an amazing short career.
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Obviously sarcasm doesn't bode well here but whenever (IMO) WR depth comes up people say "hopefully Childs can play this year too. He's solid"....college game can't be translated into NFL 90% of the time and that's why I don't take college players seriously all the time. For every Randy Moss (1st round WR)...how many Roy Williams' have their been?
NextQuestion wrote:Obviously sarcasm doesn't bode well here but whenever (IMO) WR depth comes up people say "hopefully Childs can play this year too. He's solid"....college game can't be translated into NFL 90% of the time and that's why I don't take college players seriously all the time. For every Randy Moss (1st round WR)...how many Roy Williams' have their been?
That is toned down a little from your first outlandish statement which was ridiculous to say the least, "Biggest preposterous statement ever? This guy is like a Vikings legend and dude hasn't even stepped on the field."
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The fact that anyone is still talking about Childs possible return is a good sign in itself.
I'm pulling for the guy. Not because I think he's going to become the next great Viking WR, but more because he is not giving up and is trying to do what appears to have never been done before for his injury. That alone is worth cheering for, and if he does make it back and does anything on the field, that will be all the more impressive.
I'm rooting for the guy but this board and other boards have treated him like this super secret weapon. GBFavreFan agrees with me...so at least I'm not totally alone in my observation. I hope to be dead wrong but I get the feeling he'll be a practice squad guy this year.
VikingLord wrote:The fact that anyone is still talking about Childs possible return is a good sign in itself.
I'm pulling for the guy. Not because I think he's going to become the next great Viking WR, but more because he is not giving up and is trying to do what appears to have never been done before for his injury. That alone is worth cheering for, and if he does make it back and does anything on the field, that will be all the more impressive.
This pretty much sums up how I feel about it. It's devastating what happened to him. The fact that he is still working towards coming back is impressive and admirable. I hope he's able to contribute and live his dream. It's sad to see a guy with such a promising future go down like that.
It's safe to say that I'm cautiously optimistic. With that being said, I think if he does get back on the field--I'm going to hold my breath the first few times he gets tackled. And if he ever goes down and appears to be significantly injured, I'm going to die a little inside. I guess I'm a little scared for him. I want him to be successful, but another severe injury and who knows what his future after football will look like.
This has come up before. Nobody has said Childs will be a 1st ballot HOF or anything like that. They are just excited at the prospect his skill set presents if he can play at 100%. The key there is if. Nobody is saying he will do that, just that if he can be a success story, he has all the potential in the world to be an impact player for the Vikings.
It isn't like they are holding his roster spot for some other marquee talent. They are not. So enjoy the hope while there is still some to be had. IF Childs doesn't pan out he'll just be one of many, many 4th rounders he never made an NFL roster.
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NextQuestion wrote:
Honestly...show of hands on this board who had even heard or seen this guy until we drafted him? How do we know he was incredibly gifted? Shouldn't he have been a 1st rounder? It's not negativity I'm spreading at all....I'm just sick of people clinging on to some guy who's never even made it all the way through a training camp. I'm pulling for any Viking to make it through injury but we've gotta be kidding ourselves if we think this cat is going to an impact player this year and NOT draft WR.
*raises hands* Greg Childs was the man in college. He can kick some serious butt if he's healthy. But that has always been his problem, he can't stay healthy. That is why he got drafted so late. He has the tool set of a 1st rounder but the durability of a 7th rounder/undrafted guy.
Before he got injured they say he was one of the best players in the Vikings camp. So he is not a nobody. He just needs to get and stay healthy
Childs had a very good college career and was drafted by the Vikes based on his speed and performance at the college level. After suffering severe injuries last year which hindered his development with the Vikes, I would love to have him recover from the aforementioned injuries and be a deep threat/slot receiver for which he was drafted.
If he can come back, this would add another weapon for Ponder who needs all the help he can get. Not being negative on Ponder, just stating that he needs help to develop into the QB we hope he can be.
Boon wrote:
what sarcasm? you made a dumb comment and got called on it. sarcasm is an act of humor triggered by something mundane. you made a string of comments about the same thing and ended it with a complete list of receivers. every analyst that I can recall said childs would have been a high first rounder if not for his injuries. so yes, skillwise he's better than those listed, all of them.
Bit over sensitive? We're getting worked up about a guy who will more than likely never be able to walk comfortably again.
MV711 wrote:Childs had a very good college career and was drafted by the Vikes based on his speed and performance at the college level. After suffering severe injuries last year which hindered his development with the Vikes, I would love to have him recover from the aforementioned injuries and be a deep threat/slot receiver for which he was drafted.
If he can come back, this would add another weapon for Ponder who needs all the help he can get. Not being negative on Ponder, just stating that he needs help to develop into the QB we hope he can be.
This is sort of what I'm talking about. I think we need to address this need in the 2013 draft and not wait for a guy coming off a horrific injury who has "deep threat potential". I hope I'm dead wrong but I just can't see this guy being a player with impact anytime soon.
I loosely follow college ball but I get into it around the bowl games and when NFL combine hits. I generally try to look out for guys who are ranked high by people like Mayock and I'm sorry...Greg Childs was never mentioned.
NextQuestion wrote:
This is sort of what I'm talking about. I think we need to address this need in the 2013 draft and not wait for a guy coming off a horrific injury who has "deep threat potential". I hope I'm dead wrong but I just can't see this guy being a player with impact anytime soon.
I loosely follow college ball but I get into it around the bowl games and when NFL combine hits. I generally try to look out for guys who are ranked high by people like Mayock and I'm sorry...Greg Childs was never mentioned.
Well, and granted this is a college reference, Trent Richardson wasn't ranked on ESPN's Top 150 on signing day for Alabama. So coaching has a lot to do with it. Sidney Rice was drafted under the notion that if he spent enough time being worked with by our WR coach (George Stewart?) that in two (maybe three) years, he would be one of the top wideouts in the league, and that was damn close to being the case.
And you wouldn't have heard Mike Mayock say anything about Greg Childs because he came back from a 2011 injury too early and did not play well as a result. That's why he was avaliable in the fourth round. This guy wasn't a first or second round pick. He had a history of injuries and had a freak accident in training camp. I think his 2010 production was well worth the risk he presented. Unfortunately it looks like the apprehensions about him will prove to be true, but it was undoutebly worth the shot.
yikes. you can tell it's the off season! can just be brutal on these boards at this time. i swear sometimes you are almost scared to say anything positive about a player for fear of the backlash!
i for one am pulling for childs. i'm sure some just read that sentence and came away thinking that i believe that childs is the second coming of jerry rice and if can only get healthy he'll take us to the promised land. but for everyone else i'm sure they get it. he was drafted by the vikings and i'm a vikings fan. with very few exceptions if you play for the vikings i'm going to root for you. as a former college player myself i know all too well that injuries can crush careers. i also know that fans can just be brutal. like if you are not a first ballot hall of fame caliber player then you are "worthless" and a "waste of space" and we should "just get rid of him" because he'll "never amount to anything". it's silly. i really don't think many people have any idea how hard you have to work and how talented you need to be to even get a sniff from the nfl. so when i see a guy on the vikings who has had two devastating injuries i'm going to root for him 110% and i guess just accept the consequences from message board experts on why my way of thinking is so wrong.
one last thing. if you do a little googling searching you will see that childs was in fact a high wr prospect after his sophmore year. some draft "experts" had him as high as a 2nd round pick at that point of his career. then he suffered injuries and was never the same. however, even at that time people thought getting him in the 4th or 5th round was very little risk with potential high reward of landing a good #2 receiver on an nfl team. we all know what happened next.
personally i love this kids attitude. why wouldn't you say you're gonna be back? why wouldn't you be positive? sometimes i think many of this board have never had to face adversity so they really don't understand the power of positive thinking. setting goals, and hard work. it's way more fun to be negative, bash players, and call other fans out for even minimal optimism. to each his own.