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Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:04 pm
by admvp
Purplemania wrote: Man I just can't wait for that day to come. I honestly don't know what I'll do...
It won't be fun. Just like the 2010 NFC Championship game wasn't fun. Misery start to finish, at least for me. Not to sound morbid, but the Vikings HAVE to win a Super Bowl in my dad's lifetime. It is something that needs to happen. I'd give both my arms for it. My dad isn't that old, so they've got time. But they've managed to screw it up until now... What's stopping them from another 30-40 years?

But if we win, it will be celebration and joy like never before. For all of us.

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 10:13 pm
by admvp
More on topic with the thread...

We'll win a wild card. Chicago is too good, so we aren't winning the division. But we are winning a wild card.

We're going to take advantage of this schedule. If we go 7-1 at home on the year, we only have to win 3 road games to get to 10 wins. The only question remaining: in the unbelievably strong and deep NFC, will 10 wins get you into the playoffs?

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:13 am
by jackal
We'll win a wild card. Chicago is too good, so we aren't winning the division. But we are winning a wild card.
The Bears are better than us but they always fall off do to injuries in the second half, due to age on the defense
and lack of depth IMO

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:48 am
by Texas Vike
admvp wrote: It won't be fun. Just like the 2010 NFC Championship game wasn't fun. Misery start to finish, at least for me. Not to sound morbid, but the Vikings HAVE to win a Super Bowl in my dad's lifetime. It is something that needs to happen. I'd give both my arms for it. My dad isn't that old, so they've got time. But they've managed to screw it up until now... What's stopping them from another 30-40 years?

But if we win, it will be celebration and joy like never before. For all of us.
Celebration and joy, but without arms how are you going to make a toast or drink a cold one?

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:53 am
by losperros
jackal wrote:The Bears are better than us but they always fall off do to injuries in the second half, due to age on the defense
and lack of depth IMO
I've thought about that, too. The Bears find ways to implode.

OTOH, didn't they win the division just two years ago?

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:23 am
by PurpleMustReign
I'll still be happy with 8-8. The second half of the schedule is too brutal IMO.

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:51 pm
by Raptorman
Eli wrote:I think the Vikings either win the division or nothing. If they do well and beat the Lions and split with Chicago and Green Bay, then the division championship is a real possibility. If they don't win the division, either Chicago or Green Bay will be a top contender for one of the wild card spots. I suspect 10-6 may get edged out.
Well right now we have the edge on the Niners in a tie. If they beat the Cardinals this weekend they have the edge on them. So far the Vikings have an edge on the Packers and the Lions in the next tiebreaker, (assuming a split in games) common games. It's a long season though.

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 1:03 pm
by Mothman
losperros wrote:I've thought about that, too. The Bears find ways to implode.

OTOH, didn't they win the division just two years ago?
Yes they did and last year their implosion was basically due to injuries and inadequate depth. They lost Forte and Cutler and didn't have enough quality depth behind them (especially at QB).
PurpleMustReign wrote:I'll still be happy with 8-8. The second half of the schedule is too brutal IMO.
I think so too, although anything can happen. 6 wins would double their total from last year so if they manage 8, I'll be very happy,

It's just too early for me to think about playoff scenarios. Most of the teams in the NFC are just one game apart in the loss column so the Vikings are in the mix but so is just about everyone else. I just want to see them bounce back from last week's loss with home wins against the Cardinals and Bucs.

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:25 pm
by jackal
I can't see us getting much less than eight we have several winnable games before the break..
9-10 is I think where we end up realistically

that's three times last years total

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:36 pm
by Infinity
jackal wrote:I can't see us getting much less than eight we have several winnable games before the break..
9-10 is I think where we end up realistically

that's three times last years total
Did you mean 9-7?

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:43 pm
by Mothman
Infinity wrote: Did you mean 9-7?

I think he meant 9 or 10 wins.

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 5:31 pm
by Infinity
Mothman wrote:
I think he meant 9 or 10 wins.
Ok thanks, sorry for the confusion

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:03 pm
by jackal
yes the that is the least amount I see them winning this year.

It could 11-5 at the top end of guessing as well

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:20 am
by John_Viveiros
If the Vikings had been able to win at Washington, both the extra victory (you know, one more in the win column) and the fact that we had played well enough on the road would have led me to think the playoffs were a reasonable outcome. But the red zone difficulties are a true team flaw that will cost us games. As is the inability to stop a hot qb with our zone defense. So I now think we are looking like an 8-8 team. Which is actually pretty satisfying From the standpoint of last years team.

I think we'll be favored in the next three home games, and underdogs in the other seven. We pull one win out as underdog and hold serve at home.

Another draft class like this year, and we are playoff bound.

Re: Wildcard Vikings ?

Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2012 10:37 am
by Mothman
John_Viveiros wrote:If the Vikings had been able to win at Washington, both the extra victory (you know, one more in the win column) and the fact that we had played well enough on the road would have led me to think the playoffs were a reasonable outcome. But the red zone difficulties are a true team flaw that will cost us games.
That obviously depends on the Vikings ability to address those issues. If I'm not mistaken, going into that game they were one of the best teams in the NFL in terms of TD percentage in the red zone (ie: percentage of red zone possessions that end in TDs rather than FGs). So, was what happened against Washington a one game anomaly or an indication of a deeper problem?
As is the inability to stop a hot qb with our zone defense. So I now think we are looking like an 8-8 team. Which is actually pretty satisfying From the standpoint of last years team.
A 5 game improvement would be an excellent outcome, although the team's fast start obviously has us all hoping for even more. If they finish 8-8, I certainly won't complain.