Re: Junior Seau Dead
Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 1:47 pm
Don't make no sense
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Suicide never does.The Breeze wrote:Don't make no sense
That assessment is a little harsh. You can never truly understand what is going on in the mind of a suicidal person. Logic and reason don't really apply. From our own perspectives it doesn't make sense, but on some level it made sense to Seau (even if he realized it was wrong). I'm definitely not condoning it, but I don't consider ending your own life cowardly. It takes some serious guts to turn a gun on yourself, especially considering that he shot himself in the chest (which can be a slow agonizing death) rather than the head. That fact tells me that he did it because he saw himself as a hopeless case and wanted to preserve his brain for concussion study. Maybe he saw it as a way to help future NFL players? We'll never know.Angels Wings wrote:this was a selfish and cowardly act by Junior. Not only does he leave behind a grieving mother, but he also leaves 3 children without a father. I believe that he took the cowards way out of whatever he was going through and an act like taking your own life is not rewarded with "resting in peace"...
I hear you, but in Junior's case, it was calculated in my opinion thus my response to the situation. Football players know the rules of engagement and know of the dangers of what is for all intents and purposes a collision sport; so forgive my lack of sympathy.HornedMessiah wrote: That assessment is a little harsh. You can never truly understand what is going on in the mind of a suicidal person. Logic and reason don't really apply. From our own perspectives it doesn't make sense, but on some level it made sense to Seau (even if he realized it was wrong). I'm definitely not condoning it, but I don't consider ending your own life cowardly. It takes some serious guts to turn a gun on yourself, especially considering that he shot himself in the chest (which can be a slow agonizing death) rather than the head. That fact tells me that he did it because he saw himself as a hopeless case and wanted to preserve his brain for concussion study. Maybe he saw it as a way to help future NFL players? We'll never know.
Ugh, nasty topic. Takes the mind to some dark places.
You don't know his personal situation however. I don't condone suicide but i don't think people can really understand the situation until there in that situation themselves. That's me included as well. I doubt Tarnishing football is fair to blame him with, he was obv going through some #### that we will never know about. I don't think selfishness comes into it.Bigdaddy420 wrote:He is selfish.He caused alot of pain to alot of family and fans.Tarnishing football.Have you ever herd the saying its not how you start its how you finish.well he did not finish he quit.setting bad examples for the youth and people in hard times.Im sorry but when your blessed with the oppertunity like he was there know reson to quit.go vikings........
You've never been in that situation. Before you say something like that, live in their shoes. You obviously don't understand what it is like to have a mental illness. I almost lost a friend to suicide (it was an attempt that thankfully failed), and it brought a whole new perspective for me about someone with any mental disease (and any other disease really). To that person their brain isn't working correctly. They can't control it.hibbingviking wrote:how can you not face life and take the easy way out ? many people suffer with cancer, starvation, mental illness, chronic health problems and disabilties and have more balls. coward imo.
there is no evidence seau had a mental illness. who knows why he did what he did. i have a friend that is severly bipolar and never attempted suicide. my mom had cancer and never attempted suicide.PurpleMustReign wrote: You've never been in that situation. Before you say something like that, live in their shoes. You obviously don't understand what it is like to have a mental illness. I almost lost a friend to suicide (it was an attempt that thankfully failed), and it brought a whole new perspective for me about someone with any mental disease (and any other disease really). To that person their brain isn't working correctly. They can't control it.
Your response is akin to telling Mohamed Ali to stop shaking. You don't know what it's like.
You definitely have balls calling someone who killed himself a coward.hibbingviking wrote:how can you not face life and take the easy way out ? many people suffer with cancer, starvation, mental illness, chronic health problems and disabilties and have more balls. coward imo.
jackal wrote:imagine yourself in a deep bit with cold sandy walls .. you try and pull yourself out ..
you know you will starve or die of thirst if you don't get out soon.
The more you try to pull yourself out .. the more the sand comes down on you ...
that's is what depression is like
Have you been paying any attention whatsoever to the brain research that's been going on the last couple of years? It will be shocking if Seau did not have the same brain damage that numerous other deceased players have been found to have.hibbingviking wrote:there is no evidence seau had a mental illness