Mothman wrote:I can't speak for anyone else but for me, it's not about Bridgewater being the focal point of the offense. I don't care about that. It's about production and Bridgewater's development. I find it unacceptable that the Vikings have one of the league's worst passing games. Referring to "fantasy stats" makes it sound like such a concern is trivial but fantasy stats reflect yardage and touchdowns. It's my understanding that gaining yardage and scoring touchdowns are also important in real football games.The Vikes get very few TDs out of their passing game. They have too many drives end in FGs or punts. They have a 35% third down conversion rate, one of the worst ion the league. These are aspects of the offense that clearly need improvement, weaknesses that could hurt the team's chances for continued success as their schedule gets harder and the season moves toward the postseason. Bridgewater, and the passing game, need to develop into a much more formidable aspect of the offense than they are now.
No offense intended here Jim but I feel like sometimes you simplify the argument against your point for the sake of your point. Are you saying that you think Teddy played poorly at the end of the Denver game? At the end of the Chicago game? If we say the win/loss are all that matters his gameplay comes up. If we bring up lights out gameplay examples, the win/loss record comes up. I don't honestly think there is any evidence that contradicts the idea that he "flipped a switch" at the end of those games. He was asked to put up and he did. Incompletions and sacks happen.
the 3rd down conversion rate stats always bug me ever since a game about 5 or 6 years ago where whoever we were playing had 3rd and inches on every single 3rd down play that game (it was crazy) and in the same respect our shortest 3rd down play was like 9 yards. All the announcers kept going on and on about how poor our defense was because we hadn't stopped them on third down. Which is obviously true. But how many offenses do you know of that CANT gain 2 inches if they need to? Conversely if a team moves the ball well and never gets into 3rd downs and the 3 times they do all game they end up in 3rd and 18s and don't get any of them or get one of them. they have a rate of 33% so even though they went 1/3 on third down, and absolutely wrecked their opponent they would have a "terrible" 3rd down conversion rate.
I don't think 3rd down conversion reflect as much on Teddy as they do on the whole team. Which, I know, is what you mean. the TEAM needs to do better, the Oline, Norv, Teddy, pass protection, the receivers, the TEs, etc. But I just don't agree with the implicit point that Teddy has shown to be any significant part of the problem at this stage.
I'm just saying, it makes little sense to point to a QB's ability drive the team to score when it matters most and then use a game in which he didn't do that when it literally mattered most to illustrate the point.
