VikingLord wrote:
I have to disagree, Jim. I think plenty of Vikings fans would be willing to watch a young QB develop, provided he is in fact developing. Ponder has not done that, IMHO, as he's been consistently inconsistent during his entire tenure with the team.
The last young QB we watched develop was Culpepper, and while he had his struggles, I think that is the type of arc one hopes to see when a younger QB is made the starter.
I agree and it's also the main reason I made that statement. There were some Vikes fans who showed patience while Culpepper developed but overall, as I recall those seasons, the fan base as a whole wasn't particularly patient or supportive of Culpepper.
It's too bad Daunte got hurt when he did and then the coaching staff changed, because I think he had a real chance to be that franchise guy for the Vikings.
VikingLord wrote:
Why would the Bucs sling mud at a guy they used a 1st rounder on, has started for them for 5 years, and who they want to get something for in trade if they could? You don't talk a guy like that down unless the word is already out in regards to his problems.
Schiano is an a$$, that's why. Look at Freeman's numbers before and after Schiano got there. He is, dare I say, Childress-esque.
VikingLord wrote:
You are maddeningly inconsistent when it comes to problem players. Get rid of Harvin because he's a headcase, even though he's also an upgrade over everyone at his position, but sign Freeman?
The Vikings/Spielman handled the Harvin situation perfectly over the last year.
yezzir wrote:
The Vikings/Spielman handled the Harvin situation perfectly over the last year.
There was more to it then being not very smart and having ADHD. Ponder was a jerk. Gave up at times. Half assed it. Injury prone. Going at it with the coach twice. Entitled little punk.
Demi wrote:There was more to it then being not very smart and having ADHD. Ponder was a jerk. Gave up at times. Half assed it. Injury prone. Going at it with the coach twice. Entitled little punk.
I assume you mean Harvin?
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The guy played with a broken rib over his heart but yet rushed for 2 tds. and made some crucial first downs and put them in a great position to win the game with minutes left and the defense, as they did in two of the other loses blew it. For sure he threw some crummy passes but try and throw a ball with a broken rib. Most people could not bend over and tie a shoe lace with broken ribs. What a quitter he is
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Demi wrote: There was more to it then being not very smart and having ADHD. Ponder was a jerk. Gave up at times. Half assed it. Injury prone. Going at it with the coach twice. Entitled little punk.
Ponder on the brain, eh? I knew somewhere deep down you kind of liked him.
Yeah, all these Ponderaholic apologists first talking down about Cassel's performance, now talking up Ponder, and even after everything acting like he's still #1 on the depth chart. Completely out of touch with reality.
I meant Harvin.
And yeah, fractured ribs over the heart going to kill him...and barely winces. Makes one comment on sideline half heartedly. Continues to play with no issues. And practices the next week. OOOOOOOOOK Ponder lovers. He's done. He was bad when he drafted him. Looked bad his 1st year. Looked bad his 2nd year. And looked worse his third year. Hang on to that feeeeeeelin'.
