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Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:13 am
by Pondering Her Percy
Newman was solid under Zimmer. It's a plus that he already knows this defense. However, I highly doubt they are going to rely on a 37 year old to just take over

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:55 am
by HardcoreVikesFan
dead_poet wrote:More of "Babs." I know he's going up against smaller guys than he'll traditionally see in the NFL but some of these blocks are lol hilariously awesome. After watching some of his blocks I found myself saying in a deep Hulk voice "puny human."



What I take away is he's finishing blocks and plays, he's got some speed on him for a mountain and he's always looking for someone to smash. I'm going to be rooting hard for this guy in camp. If he can do even half of what he did overseas he could be a contributor. I'll be anxious to see how he does against Everson and some other fast/agile pass rushers.
He is a monstrous athlete that is for sure. I will be curious to see what he can do.

One thing that jumps out from his tape immediately is his lack of fundamentals. He plays way too high. I know it is very difficult for someone who is 6'9" to play 'low' but he is basically standing upright on every block. There is no way he will be able to do that in the NFL. Jeff Davidson will have his work cut out for him that is for sure. But hey, if he is a better than Wentworth and Harris, then I am good.

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:37 am
by Texas Vike
Babs looks like a college player going against pop warner kids in those videos. Kind of ridiculous looking. There will be a sharp learning curve in the NFL, no doubt. I don't think he'll amount to much, but I'd love to be wrong about that.

2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 3:36 pm
by DK Sweets
Pseudo Everything, I suppose when you said things like we're wasting a roster spot and brought up the fan enamoration with size along with the Toniu Fonoti comparisons, I assumed that you were upset with the signing and had over gauged the fan excitement. I'm sorry if I read too much into your post.

I do still disagree with your assessment of Fusco's draft position, though. I will stand by my statement that he was better than many players drafted before him and therefore was drafted later than he should have been (lucky for us) and it was based mostly on teams' lack of confidence in his ability based on the level of competition he faced. That was my whole point with that comparison. I'm not saying Babs is anywhere near the player that Fusco is, but I do think that if you write off guys because their competition isn't strong, you have a chance of missing out on serviceable players. He dominated the guys he played against, so for that reason I feel like he's worth giving a shot to see if he can at least hold his own against better players. If he doesn't work out, we lose nothing. If he turns out to be worth a roster spot, we gain something. With 30+ temporary roster spots, I see no harm in letting him take one of them and seeing how he fares.

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 6:35 pm
by S197
dead_poet wrote:More of "Babs." I know he's going up against smaller guys than he'll traditionally see in the NFL but some of these blocks are lol hilariously awesome. After watching some of his blocks I found myself saying in a deep Hulk voice "puny human."



What I take away is he's finishing blocks and plays, he's got some speed on him for a mountain and he's always looking for someone to smash. I'm going to be rooting hard for this guy in camp. If he can do even half of what he did overseas he could be a contributor. I'll be anxious to see how he does against Everson and some other fast/agile pass rushers.
Some of those blocks, oh man haha. There's a play around 1:40 where the DE basically just falls down on his own rather than getting pancaked again.

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 7:30 pm
by Demi
jackal wrote:http://www.nfl.com/player/terencenewman ... areerstats

Newman had one pick 48 solo tackles and 25 Assist tackles ... Better than I thought
He was an upgrade over Robinson and Munnerlyn. Hopefully he gets a real shot. He should be starting across from Rhodes.

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 9:40 pm
by Pondering Her Percy
Demi wrote: He was an upgrade over Robinson and Munnerlyn. Hopefully he gets a real shot. He should be starting across from Rhodes.
I'm not so sure he should be starting. We need to draft a CB within the first 3 rounds IMO and whoever that is, should be the starter. Not Newman. I don't feel comfortable relying on a 37 year old guy starting at CB. He's a solid depth guy/veteran though

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 10:38 pm
by Demi
Pondering Her Percy wrote: I'm not so sure he should be starting. We need to draft a CB within the first 3 rounds IMO and whoever that is, should be the starter. Not Newman. I don't feel comfortable relying on a 37 year old guy starting at CB. He's a solid depth guy/veteran though
But you feel comfortable with a rookie with zero experience in the defense starting? Over a 37 year old veteran who has played with Zimmer for 6 seasons?

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2015 11:34 pm
by VikingPaul73
You can tell by his comments that Zimmer doesn't believe that Robinson is the answer. And Captain is clearly more comfortable covering the slot.

I agree with PHP that they SHOULD draft a CB in 1-3, but I don't think they will just hand him the starting job. I think Newman will start and the guy they draft will hopefully be the heir apparent.

But as I always say, time will tell!!

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:23 am
by CbusVikesFan

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:37 am
by Mothman
CbusVikesFan wrote:Greenway restructures:
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12575 ... um=twitter
That should make some people happy.

Now what are they going to do with that extra space? :)

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:41 am
by CbusVikesFan
Mothman wrote: That should make some people happy.

Now what are they going to do with that extra space? :)
Who knows? Keep it in their pocket? :confused:

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:43 am
by Mothman
CbusVikesFan wrote: Who knows? Keep it in their pocket? :confused:
That's what I'd do... at least until reached the Caribbean. :)

Seriously, I'm thinking they may use some of it to extend a few contracts and, of course, the offseason is far from over so they will probably sign a few more free agents.

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:53 am
by CbusVikesFan
Would this be a good time to invest in Rhodes?

Re: 2015 Offseason - Free Agent/Draft Tracker

Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:02 am
by Mothman
CbusVikesFan wrote:Would this be a good time to invest in Rhodes?
Perhaps, although he's signed through 2016 so I'm guessing they'd prefer to wait a year. It would be a good time to invest in Harrison Smith though. He's in the final year of his rookie deal.